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FA rankings, v.1

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Kayman, Jun 28, 2004.

  1. Kayman

    Kayman Contributing Member

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    By position,

    C
    1. Dampier
    2. Camby
    3. Vlade, maybe a good backup somewhere, Rockets Should Call (RSC)
    4. Foyle, expect him to reup with GSW if Dampier walks
    5. Ostertag
    6. Chris Anderson, as crazy as it sounds he will get a stable NBA contract this summer

    PF
    1. Sheed, expect him to stay in Detroit. Market is not very good for PFs, see ## 2 and 3 below.
    2. K-Mart, RFA looking for a max deal. Current team won't give it to him. Teams with most room under cap are either set at PF (Clippers, San Antonio, Phoenix) or quite unattractive (Utah, Atlant). Tough spot.

    3. Stro Swift, exactly the same situation as K-Mart.
    4. Marcus Fizer. Undersized, history of injuries, still will get money in the 6-7M range. Rockets must stay away (RMSA)
    5. Etan Thomas, true gem, RSC, although Wizards will hardly let go.
    6. Lonnie Baxter, banger, undersized, RSC nevertheless.
    7. Samake Walker, maybe deserves another chance (MDAC)
    8. Keon Clark, MDAC
    9. Memo Okur, Fat Overrated Whitie (FOW), RMSA

    SF

    1. Darius Miles, RFA, Blazers will lowball but match any other offer.
    2. Bruce Bowen, RSC, although likely will reup with Spurs
    3. Eric Williams, RSC
    4. Rodney White, MDAC
    5. Hedo Turkoglu, FOW


    SG

    1. Kobe, L.A. or Vail county jail
    2. Manu, stays with Spurs after Kobe signs the LA extension.
    3. Q- stays with Clippers after Kobe signs the LA extension
    4. Marqis Daniels, another gem picked up by the best talent spotter in NBA history, Don Nelson.

    PG/Combo guards

    1. D-Fish, Rockets first priority
    2. Brent Barry
    3. Jamal Crawford, RFA, can be had, Bulls won't match everything for him
    4. Dooling, RFA, stays with Clipps
    5. T-Hud, not on this planet, RMSA
    6. Damon Jones, RMC
    7. Boby Sura
    8. Mo Williams, RMC
     
  2. JeeberD

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    Marquise Daniels ran the point for the Mavs last year, not the 2...
     
  3. Drexlerfan22

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    Vlade has said at least 5 separate times in the media that he will never play for another NBA team besides the Kings, and if he were to be traded, he would retire. Go ahead and strike him off the list.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Brian Cardinal is superior to most of the forwards you have listed, and a URF to boot.

    Does the dirty work and can hit the three shockingly well; one of the more efficient players around.

    That = RSC
     
  5. yipengzhao

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    Mehmet Okur, in my book is the third best PF FA out there...
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    No, you just have a bizarre obsession with him because he is white ;).
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Agree with the C and PF list, would rank Darius Miles No. 5 out of those 5 at SF, would rank Barry above Derek Fisher. Other than that, good list.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    Absolutely, stereotypes play a large part in the way people percieve him.

    He's called "the custodian" because he's a hard working type player who worked his way up into the league without a lot of natural ability.

    There's also a degree of truth in that particular stereotype as applied to him. I'm not afraid to admit that that's true.

    Regardless, he had an extremely productive season last year and would be a great and affordable addition to any team.
     
  9. xiki

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    While I agree with some and respectfully disagree with others, I am appalled and offended by your Okur comment. There is no place for that.

    You meant DonNIE Nelson, Iassume. he is the scout and eye-for-talent Nellie.

    BTW - what are all your acronyms?
     
  10. bamaslammer

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    I've got to call ditto on that. He'd be a good, hard-working addition to any team, for not a lot of money. He's the kind of player that every team needs at least two of: a hustler with some other assets.
     
  11. tierre_brown

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    Can't see Chris Anderson playing C in the West...wasn't he a 4?

    Anyway, that's a pretty good list (aside from the omission of Brain Cardinal...agree with SamFisher 100% on that one). I don't think we should look at acquiring any 3s though. PG and PF/C are positions of need. Still, if those are the best PFs on the market, I say we stay away. Stro Swift looking for a MAX contract? Ridiculous...
     
  12. Desert Scar

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    Also, what about Alston, Arroyo or Lue (assuming he opts out)? Honestly after Barry I might look to them over the likes of Dooling, T-hud (not what we need), Jones, Sura, etc. Fisher's percentages are pretty poor and he played with Shaq and Kobe, I would not pay more than about 2 mil a year for him.

    I like Barry by a wide margin, than Alston, than Arroyo, than Lue than Fisher. If we got to keep Lue (quick squirt) and added Barry (tall, fluid, great shooter)--I'd feel real solid about the PG spot.
     
  13. Desert Scar

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    Oh, I'd really like Foyle as a back-up C if he can be had without breaking up the MLE to go for Barry, Camby, E Thomas or Swift.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    By the way, what if Kayman or someone else had called someone a "fat overrated blacky" or something like that? I am surprised that someone so obviously sensitive to things like that as our friend Samuel has not spoken up against this ;).
     
  15. Nuggets4

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    Dude, no. Seriously. He's one of those players that I wish the Nugs would let get away. OVERRATED IMO. That phrase gets me ripped on hard by other Nugs fans, but the guy can't play defense. He gets tons of blocked shots only because he jumps if his opponent breathes. On offense, Bzdelik said it best, if he's not touching the rim, he's out of his shooting range.

    Give me Francisco Elson over Birdman anyday.
     
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    See Cato, Kelvin circa three years ago. He'll get money cause he's got potential.
     
  17. Kayman

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    Re: Brian Cardinal. He did have a good year, players like him can have an aberration season like this from time-to-time. He's got that Pete Chilcutt aura around him. Plus, the game has gotten too fast for slow white guys like him, they are trying to do too much and often end up having major injuries: Googliotta, Harping, Troy Murphy, Pat Garrity all come to mind.

    Re: Arroyo, Alston, Lue. I didn't know Skip was available, he's finally putting it together and I think he will be a steal. I would rank him very high. Arroyo, I don't know, Jerry Sloan can take me and two graduate students in astrophysics and make us look like NBA material. Tyronn Lue has always looked a bit clownish to me, it seems crazy that he'll leave money on the table. Remember that guy Elliot "Socks" Perry, he had the same type of energy, but never could quite stick in the league. I think there are two words that may have made teams not to give guaranteed money to players like Lue: "Moochie" and "Norris"
     
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    Apparantly your book was co-authored by Chad Ford. I think most of these baloons originate from him, and then get picked up by other journalist who don't know sh** about pro-ball. I remember Chad telling us that Zeliko Rebraca is the real deal, same with Hedo Turkoglu, Rasho Nesterovich, etc. Although, I must say Rasho played better for the Spurs than I expected him.
     
  19. Desert Scar

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    Couple more points:

    I don't think Swift and KMart should be discussed in the same breath yet. People might offer big money to Swift because he might become a player, people will offer BIG time money to Kmart because he is a player.

    I agree with Kayman about Okur. I think a Buddy Ryan statement that goes something like this is fair. "The guy can do some things, to bad he can't play". Okur made Elden Campbell look like a firery and fleet footed player. The only thing I see him bringing over MoT is an extra 3 feet on the jumpshot, but I think even Mo is more physical, determined and a better defender than Okur.

    Kayman, why not call Camby (RSC) to be the back-up C and get 4 minutes? Then of course we look to trade Howard.

    I like Foyle (RSC) better than Divac too, we have enough finese and offense in Yao, Mo and Howard.

    I had forgotten about Daniels. URFA I believe, and the Mavs just used the #5 pick on a PG and still have Nash their floor leader to resign (and are loaded at SG). Short move down I-45 and no income tax, and available starting job for the taking on the NBA champs (RSC and there is the sales pitch).

    Still like Barry, than Alston. Not sure among Daniels and Arroyo--I think Arroyo would be safer as a solid team runner though less upside. I don't think Fisher is a bad idea for the experience, but he can't be counted to play heavy minutes all season.
     
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  20. rockergordon

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    seems like the rockets are going to want more of a veteran player to play PG. at least thats my logic. unless they want someone who can run...
     

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