Expectations for Morey at the deadline unreasonable?

Sounds like a thread about whether trading for a star is really a strategy to me.



I 100% agree.

DD

 

realistically, Kaman is probably the target.

 

He would be a band aid, but ironically the team would be a lot better with him on it....

Dalembert would probably be the best case scenario....and that seems ironic considering he was the poison pill the Rox were unwilling to take last year to get Iggy, right?

DD

 

Bad title, very good content.

My expectations? Morey has been consciously grooming them through the roof; I’d be disappointed if we don’t make something big happen, whether we trade for a star or players/picks for the future.

 

I'm not expecting Morey to bring in a star. I'm expecting him to bring in a solid player who may or may not help in the short term, but who should be an important contributor to the team next year. A player who will address our defensive shortcomings. Short of that, I will be disappointed.

 

I dont think it's very realistic either, but Melo is the main target right now. He's definitely on the way out, he's not declining, and not a failure within a system, so it's going to be hard to get behind that point you made. At least for now.

 

If we do acquire a good 2 way player,he should be young but with experience who can fit with the team. That may require sending out a defensive player along with an offensive player from our team. I can live with that. Comments?

 

Or unless the star is unhappy in a place (Denver) and is unpopular with the (Nugget) fans :grin:

 

One player isn't going to address our defensive shortcomings. The defensive mentality for this team is no longer there. Nowadays it seems like when you play good offense, you get playing time.

 

Some good research there. How many all-stars were traded for before they became all-stars? I'm thinking Morey will go for a defensive center and a 2-way SF at the deadline and then cash in remaining assets (including our first round pick) to move up in the draft and take who he considers to be the next big thing.

 

Just guessing... Billups, Wallace, Bryant not very many

 

I don't think Morey's going to do more than a minor trade. I don't think there are many offers out there, considering the CBA conflicts that are impending.

Unfortunately, the team we have may be the team we see until the end of the year.

I do think that Morey needs to trade Jordan Hill. Now.

 

I am hoping we can make a move for Nene.

 

Well, to get an all star from the draft would take atleast 2-3 years of sucking. After this, then we need at least another 2-3 years to build around that star. So it would take 4-5 years minimum to get to a championship caliber team.

I think our best bet is to hold tight and look for that star, kinda like how the suns did with Nash. If we decide to turn into a rebuilding team, we won't see anything significant, at least for another 4 years.

If its not this year, we'll try the next. But what I do think we should do (if we don't land a star this year) is to trade Scola, Battier, and yes Chuck. We won't really be blowing it up but getting rid of the players that can't really contribute 2-3 years from now.

 

My thoughts as well. I think we're more likely to see a Kyle Lowry/Courtney Lee-style move: a net win, but not a game-changer. As much as we'd all like to see the big splash, moves like that are very hard to get done.

 

Exactly. I think Courtney Lee would be likely to move. He's coveted by many teams, but his position is one that can be modified. There are plenty of scoring guards in the league.

I wish he got more playing time on the Rox. Give him an iso once in awhile. He's effective that way, more so than a spot up three-point shooter.

 

I just want the team to be set in a clear direction after the trade deadline. It's still unclear to me as to what direction we are heading.

Are we going to keep this team of role players in tact which is designed for a STAR 5 then wait for that right STAR to come along? OR Are we going to scrap this core and start over? Where are as far as contending - are we looking at that as a long term goal or more immidiate? Are we going young? I just want to know what we are trying to achieve. Maybe the painfull losses can have some meaning then.

I am confused and angry. Sorry for all my meaningless outburts. Anyone that calls me a douche is not being unfair. Wont happen anymore. I am just going to support who ever is on the court. No choice really, all the angry threads wont make any difference what so ever.

 

So you're saying it's real hard to get a superstar without drafting him. And you're also insinuating that the Rockets are never gonna be bad enough to get a superstar the way we scout talent.

I gather from all your words that we are up s--- creek. Without a paddle. On thin ice.