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Executioner Proud to Do 'God's Work'

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  1. johnheath

    johnheath Member

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    I found this story interesting.....

    Executioner Proud to Do 'God's Work'
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    RIYADH (Reuters) - The leading executioner in Saudi Arabia, which implements strict Islamic sharia law, has no compunction about beheading convicts because it is "God's work."



    "I sleep very well," Arab News daily quoted executioner Mohammed Saad al-Beshi as saying Thursday in a rare interview that offered an insight into a job that is much-criticized in the West and by human rights groups.


    "It doesn't matter to me: two, four, 10. As long as I'm doing God's work, it doesn't matter how many people I execute."


    Beshi's job is of prime importance in a kingdom that executes rapists, murderers, drug and alcohol smugglers, usually by beheading, and amputates the limbs of robbers.


    So far this year, Saudi Arabia has executed at least seven people. At least 45 people were put to death in 2002, 75 people in 2001 and 121 people in 2000.


    Arab News said the 42-year-old Saudi national started work in 1998 in the Red Sea city of Jeddah and would not reveal how much he gets paid or how many people he has executed so far.


    Beshi is also proud of his sword, a gift from the government that he keeps razor sharp and cleans regularly from the blood stains. For amputations, he uses a special knife.


    "People are amazed at how fast it can separate the head from the body," the father of seven boasted. "Sometimes they (his children) help me clean my sword."


    Beshi is also entrusted with training executioners and has already started with his 22-year-old son. Asked if he thinks people are afraid of him, Beshi said: "No one is afraid of me. I have lots of relatives and many friends and I live a normal life. There are no drawbacks to my social life."
     
  2. Rockets10

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    imo, that's just disturbing that a person could care so little . . .
     
  3. Desert Scar

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    I have some problems with our own criminal justice system but sheesh. You can kind of see where an extreme system like that farts our Bin Ladens.
     
  4. Woofer

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    Except this sort of sentence is favored by extreme fundamentalists, if we followed parts of the bible literally, we could have stoning or rehabilitation for everyone in the extreme, depending on which part one chose to follow.
     
  5. Hammer755

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    It's good to see that you don't let your misunderstanding of the topic get in the way of your opinion. The New Testament, which is the religious standard that Christians follow, does not call for criminals to be stoned.
     
  6. mc mark

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    fftt...

    These people ain't got nothing on Texas...

    :mad:


    FLAME ON!!!
     
  7. Woofer

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    I know that, you are the one who just did not comprehend the part where I wrote "or".

    Also, the bible does not only apply to Christians, no need to get defensive. I am an equal opportunity offender.
     
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  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Saudia Arabia excuted 45 people last year, Texas executed 33. We're catching up as they fall back to the pack.
     
  9. RocketMan Tex

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    If that's God's work, I would hate to see the Devil's work.
     
  10. X-PAC

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    cbsnews.com

    (AP) The Marine patrol thought they found a small police station — a one-story building in this impoverished city in southern Iraq.

    But deep inside, they found a wooden stockade, what looked like a primitive electric chair, photos of burned bodies amid reams of surveillance documents. Five tiny cells weren't just to imprison people, it seemed, but to torture them.

    "It looks a bit too much like Nazi Germany to me," said Capt. Pete McAleer, commander of Echo Company of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, whose patrol found the small compound.

    Across Iraq, coalition troops are finding glimpses of past horrors — suspected torture chambers, secret police headquarters, Iraqis who reveal scars to show the cruelty of Saddam Hussein's rule carved onto their bodies.

    At a prison in Basra, Iraqis showed journalists a white stone jail known as the "White Lion" where they claim Saddam's secret police for decades tortured inmates with beatings, mutilations, electric shocks and chemical baths.

    "They did unthinkable things — electrocution, immersion in a bath of chemicals and ripping off people's finger- and toenails," resident Hamed Fattil told British reporters.

    Outside the jail, a man showed Associated Press Television News his mangled ears — he said Iraqi police cut them off.

    Fattil said Iraqi police locked him and his two brothers in a jail dungeon in 1991, and that he was freed after eight months but his brothers were still missing.

    Human rights groups and exiled Iraqis have long claimed that Saddam ran a regime built on torture and intimidation.

    In Nasiriyah, McAleer said they believed the building they found was used by Iraqi police or Baath party security forces to hold and torture prisoners, and to keep documents and identification cards to monitor local residents. Some cards showed pictures of small children; it was not clear why.

    "The records were very detailed," said McAleer. The compound was surrounded by a wall that included hand-painted outlines of people and tanks to use for target practice.

    Deep inside the building, there is a small room with no natural light with five tiny cells, all with heavy barred doors.

    In one, a wire was connected to a small hand-cranked generator and steel bar. Marines who searched the building said it had also been connected to a steel chair in what appeared to be a primitive electric chair.

    "Who knows what they did with that steel rod," McAleer said.

    Lance Cpl. James Jeffreys, of Oxnard, Calif., said the room also had a type of wooden stock, where a rope could be wrapped around a prisoner's neck, laced through holes in the wood, and then back to bind a prisoner's hands.

    "I believed it to be a police substation, but as soon as I got back in there I thought (of a torture chamber)," he said.

    Elsewhere in the building, the floor was strewn with clothing, medicine and documents — including photographs of badly burned human bodies, Jeffreys said.

    "From the position of the bodies, it looked like they could have been (burned) alive," said Jeffreys. Key documents and photographs that could be salvaged during the short initial search were turned over to a higher headquarters.

    Much of the building's clothing and medicines were burned in a fire. McAleer said he believed the fire was set by local residents after the Marines first checked the building to rid their community of the torture chamber and its instruments.

    "We have seen this done before," said McAleer. "Once the locals know it is safe, they will come in and destroy" such police and government compounds.

    In Basra, Associated Press Television News captured footage of a jail basement that was a warren of cells, chambers and cages.

    For the cameras, two men re-enacted how jailers allegedly tortured prisoners.

    One man, hands tied behind his back with a rope attached to a hook on the ceiling, bent over while another man pantomimed hitting him on the back and the face with his hands and a long, white rod.

    One man shuddered while the other gave him a pretend electric shock.

    Fattil took British reporters into a yard behind the jail to see a set of white boxy cells, surrounded by red wire mesh with a low, wire roof.

    Some cells were used to hold women and children. Hundreds of men were kept in a single cell about the size of a living room with one rusted grate window, he said.

    Between the men's and women's cells was a long mesh cage. Hamed said here, jailers pressed prisoners against the mesh and squeezed hot irons against their backs or threw scalding water on them in front of other inmates.

    "It was a place of evil," he said.


    © MMIII The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
     
  11. johnheath

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    Be a man, and view the Devil's work!!!!

    Don't stare too long, or you will become hypnotized and your money will mysteriously disappear from your bank account.


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  12. RocketMan Tex

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    Hold me John Heath...I'm scared that man is going to steal my wallet!:D
     
  13. wouldabeen23

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    NICE!! Benny is one of my favorites next to Pastor Hagee in San Antonio
     
  14. Hammer755

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    Yup, you're right, my apologies. I guess I should read entire posts before firing back an emotional response.
     
  15. MadMax

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    Very few men have distorted the Bible to the degree Benny Hinn has. Simply amazing. Makes me sick to my stomach.
     
  16. wouldabeen23

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    Just for the record, that is what I meant by saying Benny is one of my "favorites"
     
  17. MadMax

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    i figured...there is a mainline Protestant group that put out a tape of some of Benny's statements over the years , called Christianity in Crisis...like:

    "these people who disagree with me...who call me out...i will put a curse on their children."

    "adam was a superman...he was the first real superhuman who ever really lived. it's said he had dominion over the fish of the sea and birds of the sky...that means he could fly. if you have dominion you must be able to do what it can do. so he could fly. i will prove it to you further...adam was the first man to walk on the moon."

    "i wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun so I could blow them all away."

    "If you look at your wallet and tell God to put money there, He will do it."
     
  18. MR. MEOWGI

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    I think Benny Hinn was the inspiration the Beck song Devil's Haircut.

    Got a devil's haircut in my mind ...
     
  19. Dubious

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    "Killing is a form of mercy because it rectifies the person. Sometimes a person cannot be reformed unless he is cut up and burnt...You must kill, burn and lock up those in opposition."

    Ayatollah Khomeini, Iranian religious leader, Feb. 3, 1984
     
  20. F.D. Khan

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    I don't know how i'd rather go out......electric chair, lethal injection or just lopping my head off.

    I actually think getting beheaded would be the least painful and quickest???
     

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