That probably increases the Rox's chance with BBarry. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1836674
Alot of people have been saying that if they re-sign Manu that it take the Spurs out of the running for Berry. I think SA still has more cap space then we have TE or ME to offer. But I could be wrong.
It may be tricky for Denver because Ron Barry is also a FA. Are they gonna sign both brothers or dump Ron and go after Brent?
That's true, but they have said all along that they were really looking to boost their outside shooting going into this season and that Berry was a target. This doesn't change anything to me.
Yeah, lots of people calling him Berry instead of Barry but that's the first I've seen of Jon Barry being called Ron Barry.
Good news, this really helps the Rockets cause. Yeah, San Antonio said they wanted to improve their shooting, but I would be shocked if they threw big money to Barry just to bring him off the bench, and the reports sounded like Barry was a back-up option for them. Also, Barry is going to start for the Rockets if he takes the Rocks offer so Ginobili signing with the Spurs helps the Rockets bargaining position.
1. Barry is NOT a PG! 2. Barry along with McGrady have the potential to be one of the worst defensive backcourts in nba history. 3. Barry has very little if any playoff experience, which will be very valuable to the young stars we have. 4. Though Barry is a reliable shooter, so to is Fisher, who also brings defense, experience, and success in a center oriented offense. 5. Barry's rumored contract has the potential of falling right in there with the maloney, cato, rice, etc. overpaid contracts of the last few years. 5. Ginobli is 3 times the player that Barry is, and his resigning with the spurs HURTS the rockets in that he stays on a team, in our division, that has used him to kill us on several recent occasions. Best Case Scenerio: Rox get Fisher or Hudson. Spurs lose Manu and have to settle for someone like Barry. Manu gets out of the division, and experiences his prime killing the lakers and clippers for the likes of denver.
1. Barry is NOT a PG! Did a fine job last year, dealing out 6 assists per game on one of the more high-octaned offenses in the NBA. 2. Barry along with McGrady have the potential to be one of the worst defensive backcourts in nba history. And Hudson is a dominant defensive player!? And Fisher isn't exactly a dominant defender in his own right. Besides, McGrady is a pretty good defensive player. People are so quick to call McGrady a bad defensive player, never mind the fact he had to carry the entire team on both ends of the floor. 3. Barry has very little if any playoff experience, which will be very valuable to the young stars we have. Neither does Hudson. He didn't play in the playoffs this year, and he has played in the first round the year before. 4. Though Barry is a reliable shooter, so to is Fisher, who also brings defense, experience, and success in a center oriented offense. He is also streaky, god abused on both ends of the floor last year, and was shaky as a starter. So shaky that the Rockets went looking for a PG. Barry's rumored contract has the potential of falling right in there with the maloney, cato, rice, etc. overpaid contracts of the last few years. So would Derek Fisher's contract. 5. Ginobli is 3 times the player that Barry is, and his resigning with the spurs HURTS the rockets in that he stays on a team, in our division, that has used him to kill us on several recent occasions. What has Ginobili done that makes you say that he is three times the player Barry is? Outside of the fact you don't like Brent Barry that is. I could care less if he stays on the Spurs, McGrady will likely have the assignment on Ginobili. Best Case Scenerio: Rox get Fisher or Hudson. Spurs lose Manu and have to settle for someone like Barry. Manu gets out of the division, and experiences his prime killing the lakers and clippers for the likes of denver. Ummm, Manu has already re-upped with the Spurs. Besides, who cares if he re-signs with the Spurs or not, the Rockets should be more concerned with taking care of their own business.
http://p090.ezboard.com/ffullsportpressfrm7.showMessage?topicID=12240.topic Anybody seen this, don't know if it's true.
Dishing out assists is not the only criteria for judging a PG. How many assists did steve avg. over the past few years? 6.4... that sure made him a great pg didnt it? The seattle offense was high octaine because of the allen's, lewis', murray's of the team. Dont get me wrong, there is probably no one more extatic than me in regards to the T-Mac trade. Hopefully he will end up a great defensive player, but as i said, potentially he may not. Teaming him up with a player who is a proven defensive liability could prove to be disasterous. Fisher is definately the superior defender of the 3, followed by Hudson. Trust me on this one, there are very few players in the NBA that are streakier than Barry. Having him on my fantasy basketball team 2 years ago, and on a rival's this year allowed me to observe his play on a game-by-game basis. Fisher is a streaky shooter as well, but unfortunately we dont have $100M to spend on a Jason Kidd. The bottom line is that our offense doesnt require a traditional 7-8 apg point guard, but our team does need one who plays well defensively. Barry and Fisher are both good spot-up shooters, with the slight edge going to Barry. Fisher's ability to hound and frustrate a player defensively gives him the edge in my book. In regards to Hudson, when healthy he has historically played great, and is more talented than the other two, but his health issues would cause me to pass on him as well. Are you joking about Ginobli and Barry? Ginobli (26) is one of the more talented up and coming stars in the league. he can go to either side, shoot from anywhere and play defense. he was probably the 3rd and in some cases the 2nd best option that the spurs have had the past few years. I have no dislike for Barry, as said before, ive followed him in the past, and he would make a dynamite 6th man for our team, but not a point guard.
Just thing how bad defensively Barry and Parker would be. TMac can D up when he wants to, and JJ almost always does. I weak perimeter defender does not kill a defense--look no further than Kenny Smith, John Paxon and Steve Kerr. Last year Fisher was one of the worst shooting point guards among major teams. Was last year the start of his free fall in efficiency, or an anomole? Hard to say. And if Fisher indeed is one a fast downward slop, his contract, probably near an MLE for 3 years, is a killer. Like another poster said, you worry about taking care of your own home, not what your neighbor is doing. Besides Manu looks like he got close to 10 mil a year--there went SA's significant cap room. They can barely beat an MLE now, and even then not if Bowen's contract hits the books. The difference between what Barry brings to the table and these two is great--much more efficient shooting within the flow of the offense. The defensive difference is neglible--neither Fisher nor Thud are what you call great defensive 1s at this point. Fish plays good position defense but he isn't that quick and isn't that long.
