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  1. AbbasNasib

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  2. Scionxa

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    patents are getting out of hand. they're ruining the competition. I do feel that Microsoft and apple got together when they bought nortels patents to hurt android.

    I will admit though, I'm biased since I'm an android developer . I'm looking forward to seeing how HTCs purchase of S3 pans out since APPLE infringes on two of s3s patents.

    I all believe that Google recently bought some IBM patents.

    who knows, maybe Google did steal. after all Eric Schmidt was on apples board of directors up until 2009.
     
  3. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    To be fair, if google took the Rockstar corporation seriously during the Novell patents and joined up, they would own the Nortel patents.

    Here's my beef with patent law. I listen to a lot of tech shows, namely all of TWiT's content. They constantly b**** and moan about patent law, which is fine, but what bothers me is that they offer nothing in terms of a solution. Without some major kind of patent law, how the hell do you protect the work these men and women have done? If you give me some kind of solution, any, then I'll listen. However, as long as all these techies do is cry and wine what the hell can be done?

    I think Apple needs to change their approach. A figure came out that Microsoft is roughly making about as much from it's Android patent license as they are WP7. Microsoft then rolls the money they make from Android back into WP7 essentially leaching off Android and creating a better product from Android's success. I like this model. Have any of you tried WP7 running MANGO? It's effing amazing. It blows iOS and Android out of the water. If apple took a similar approach with HTC and Samsung I think they would be far more successful.

    Patent law needs to be addressed in this country and the modern world itself by technologically proficient Judges and Lawyers. Unfortunately that isn't the case and we are stuck with a corrupt and broken system...
     
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    Speaking of patent law, This American Life had an interesting show about this not too long ago

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  5. Tenchi

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    More successful in what terms? I think Apple is doing pretty good right now.
     
  6. Scionxa

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    If Apple really wants to be successful, they need to make a more affordable iPhone, which if the rumors are true, I think that's what they might do.

    Android is popular because it's in so many countires, and since it's open sourced you can put the OS on all sorts of phone, cheap phones (Cricket Androids) to the high end (Galaxy S II and Droid Bionic, etc)

    One thing that needs to be understood from Apple is that Android is not going to go down easily, which is why I think they're going after the manufacturers and not Google themselves.

    Google already has to worry about the Oracle suit, which is funny how Sun Microsystems removed their former CEO's blog post in which he praised Android.

    On the brightside, Blackberry is dying, and QNX will NOT save them
     
  7. Xerobull

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    Bias aside (I don't have much and I think that Droids are peachy too), how much more successful can Apple get? They're the #1 smartphone maker in the world and bigger than Microsoft now. And only 50b away from being the biggest company in the world.

    I wouldn't stray from that business plan.
     
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    Sure, because going from near bankruptcy, to the largest tech company in the world doesn't mean they have been real successful.
     
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    I take my opening statement back. They already are successful, what I meant to say is that if they want to overtake Android , a more affordable iPhone will definitely help.

    Developer freedom is also a reason as to why I don't xcode my way into the world of iOS. Eclipse will do for now.

    P.S
    I miss my Palm. lol
     
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    Sigh.
    "If Apple wants to overtake Android" is what I meant. I don't have the ability to edit.

    This is going to turn into an iOS vs Android thread quick.
     
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    Honestly, Apple might have a case. Eric Schmidt isn't exactly a loyal person. ****, he's been caught using a Blackberry twice in the past two years, and he pretty much hard pressed Andy Rubin to change their OS to compete with Apple. It wouldn't surprise me if he was at those board meetings taking notes on how to create a similar OS.
     
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    What a silly ruling and an even sillier argument from Apple.
     
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    Keep in mind Andy Rubin is the guy who founded "Danger" and the Danger Hiptop aka those old school Sidekicks for Tmobile. I guess you could say that was Android from the beginning lol.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Apple lost the PC wars because of their strategy of keeping everything in house, if they lose the phone or mobile device market share it will be because they are repeating the same mistakes as before.

    DD
     
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    Matias Duarte also came from Danger and later helped create WebOS. So, Android basically is Danger and will probably start taking some UI cues from WebOS. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the mobile market in the next few quarters. I actually hope that QNX survives, the more choices out there the better even if they're piggybacking off of Android apps. I haven't played with WP7 Mango yet but it looks interesting. Each OS is taking bits and pieces of the best ideas from one another and improving on them. I noticed iOS 5 has a notification bar similar to Android's. I am grateful for Apple for really pushing this wave of phones onto the consumer. But I love Android for pushing what the phone can do further. I think in the end Android is going to win out. I'm not sure what Apple will do after the market is saturated with iPhones and iPads. It seems like they had to make the iPhone because the iPod sales were slowing down, then they had to get the iPad out because eventually everyone would have an iPhone, but what happens when everyone has an iPad?
     
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    Yup, and personally I love webOS. It's too bad that there's not many apps on the platform, but I hope HP can one day turn that around. I personally hate Blackberries, on the brightside, one of their new phones will finally drop BES support and isntaed go with Microsoft Activesync (something they should have done in the first place). I haven't yet tried a WP7 but I wouldn't mind playing with one. I also agree that Android is probably going to win it out, now don't get me wrong Android definitely has its flaws. Fragmentation being the biggest one, but the new alliance should probably help with that.
     
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    They did? Their market share of PCs is higher than ever before if I am not mistaken, and they seem to be doing quite well as many are pointing out. Say what you will about their prevalence and strategy, but keeping it all in house is a big part of what has created this multi-tiered product environment that they are thriving in, taking market share wherever they see fit. Further, they are the leader in the smartphone market, whereas they have never been the leader in the PC market. It's just not the same situation.

    That said, watching android do what M$ did is huge dejavu, and I understand your point, I just think that if they lose the phone / mobile device fight that there are other factors that would have to contribute in this situation since they are the market leader in this case.
     
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    I thought the latest figures indicated that Android owns the markets share over Apple now?
     
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    Top Smartphone Platforms
    3 Month Avg. Ending Jun. 2011 vs. 3 Month Avg. Ending Mar. 2011
    Total U.S. Smartphone Subscribers Ages 13+
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    Share (%) of Smartphone Subscribers
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    Mar-11 Jun-11 Point Change
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    Total Smartphone Subscribers 100.0% 100.0% N/A
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    Google 34.7% 40.1% 5.4
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    Apple 25.5% 26.6% 1.1
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    RIM 27.1% 23.4% -3.7
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    Microsoft 7.5% 5.8% -1.7
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    Symbian 2.3% 2.0% -0.3
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    Now, top smartphone vendor would Apple, followed by Samsung I believe.
     

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