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Ethnicity surveys

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I always found them confusing.

    Let's say the options are (based on this very odd document: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1997-10-30/pdf/97-28653.pdf)
    1. American Indian or Alaska Native
    2. Asian
    3. Black or African American
    4. Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
    5. White
    First of all, why even ask the question in the first place? Why should it ever matter? In my opinion, a color-blind society would be best. I have never seen the question asked anywhere in the world but in the US, and I have been to well over 50 countries.

    There is no bi- or multiracial option.

    If you are 50% black and 50% white, do you have to put "black"? (If that were so, isn't there something inherently racist about that?) Or can you choose?

    What if you are 50% Asian and 50% white?

    What if you are a mix of even more of the suggested options?

    What would Jalen Green be supposed to answer? Jason Kidd?

    Why can you self-identify as a certain gender, but not your race? (I find both silly.) And why does it ever matter?

    To me, there is something inherently racist in asking the question at all, and in the suggested options - "white" only seems to be assumed by many people if someone is (near?) 100% white. Call it the @DaDakota racism.

    Although the document recommends:
    A lot of people probably don't read that part.
     
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  2. Ubiquitin

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    Ours are boxes and you can select more than one and we have options for chose to not disclose and other. I assume it’s to show CMS we are not shortchanging non-Whites.

    Also Asian is way too broad. South Asians are as similar to East Asians as they are Middle Easterners or Europeans. When I picture Asians I picture a Han Chinese person. In the UK they may picture an Indian instead. Middle Easterners are white for these demographics but East Asians and South Asians are still lumped together.
     
  3. Xerobull

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    It’s about money.
     
  4. Two Sandwiches

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    My wife has Japanese, Hawaiian, Icelandic, and other typical European backgrounds (English, Swedish, etc.)

    Her parents always told her to select the Pacific Islanders option, in case being a minority helped.


    Not sure if that's wrong, but it's technically correct.
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    Americans are obsessed about race and our government perpetuates it. Without it, the people would be more united and politicians would have less influence.
     
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  6. Reeko

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    How can we have a color blind society when POC are targeted, marginalized, and discriminated against simply for their skin color?

    it is woven into the very fabric of America



    u are less likely to get a job interview if u have a “black sounding name”

    redlining

    the list goes on and on
     
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  7. AroundTheWorld

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    I agree with you that that is terrible, but I don't think these race surveys help?
     
  8. tinman

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    I heard fat white people that look like trump are just like fat white people who hate trump but look like trump
    So these fat people are all the same background
    Fat
    @Os Trigonum
     
  9. tinman

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    Where’s the section where you check if you identify as fat
     
  10. tinman

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    What is ‘black sounding name’
     

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