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ESPN Insider: Carmello for Stojakovic & B. Jackson?

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  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    ESPN Insider - Trade Rumor of the Day

    The Nuggets said it would take a knock-your-socks-off offer to trade their No. 3 pick in the draft. They may have gotten one on Wednesday.

    Several NBA sources claim that the Kings are willing to part with all-star Peja Stojakovic and super sub Bobby Jackson for the No. 3 pick, Marcus Camby and Ryan Bowen.

    The Kings obviously would take Carmelo Anthony with the No. 3 pick. Camby would give them another big man who could spell Vlade Divac and Chris Webber if he ever got healthy.

    Why would the Nuggets pull the trigger on the deal?

    They would immediately get better with the addition of Stojakovic and Jackson. Remember, they'd still have roughly 18 million worth of cap room to spend on a couple of free agents, and some in the organization feel they need a few more established players to lure the best free agents.

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    Thoughts on this deal? From Denver's perspective it looks pretty good. They get an all star SF in Peja and a decent PG in Jackson. Plus they have FA money to spend. As for the Kings, losing Peja's outside game and Jackson as the spark off the bench would be a big hit. This looks like a trade for the future if you are the Kings but the future is NOW for them as their NBA window of opportunity is closing for the NBA title. For the Kings it would be a big gamble!
     
    #1 Deuce, Jun 19, 2003
  2. robbie380

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    That would be the stupidest deal for the Kings...why in the world would they do that?
     
    #2 robbie380, Jun 19, 2003
  3. xiki

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    Only if it helps them with the Luxury Tax (lowering the amount they need to pay) and/or if Bobby Jax - Bibby are incompatible.

    Good trade for Denver, bad for Sac.

    If Sac needs a 5 so badly, Rox have a bad one to offer up. Bad in the sense that he does not fit the Sac style, but neither does Camby.
     
    #3 xiki, Jun 19, 2003
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    Anytime something like this is rumored, i always ask, why would (x) team do it. I will apply it to this. Why would Sac give up one of the purest shooters in the league for a unkown rookie? This team won 59 games even after having all the injuries. A big reason why especially while ebber was out was because Peja was shooting lights out.
     
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  5. LAfadeaway33

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    I don't think that's a good trade at all for Denver. They're giving up the type of star who has the potential to be the type of player you build a team around for a guy who scores a lot of points but still relies on his teammates to defer to him and a good but not great pg.
     
    #5 LAfadeaway33, Jun 19, 2003
  6. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Agreed. Denver would never do this. Carmello is the player you covet. He's young, he's proven, he's played and beaten LeBron, he's unselfish, and he's shown his skills in every area of the game. That's why Sacramento wants him. That's why the Rockets want him too. Stojakovic has proven himsaelf, but he's also missed clutch jumpers, and he's not the team leader. He's not going to atttract Free agents. He's probably not going to take Denver on his shoulders. Denver would be handing the Western Conference over to Sac if they did this.
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    I'd take it if I were Denver, I am not an anthony fan.
     
    #7 SamFisher, Jun 19, 2003
  8. JuanValdez

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    How do they know Anthony will be available at #3? From what I've heard about the draft, it isn't clear if Anthony or Milicic would go first.

    How close is Camby to the end of his contract?
     
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    Anthony has not worked out for Detroit... Joe Dumars has all but said that Darko is their man.
     
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  10. Like A Breath

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    I think we've forgotten that college success doesn't = NBA success. If Carmelo ends up as a bust, this is a TERRIBLE trade for the Kings. Carmelo will be hard-pressed to match Peja's numbers, something he probably can't do for a couple of years. By then, Webber and Divac will be gone with their championship hopes.

    Let's say...
    Peja = 1st and 2nd year Carmelo (very possible...even unlikely for Carmelo)
    Bobby Jackson still >>>>>Marcus Stickman Camby and Ryan freakin Bowen.

    No deal.
     
    #10 Like A Breath, Jun 19, 2003
  11. Easy

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    The Kings are very close to winning a championship. Why would they want to gut their core for an unproven rookie and an injury prone veteran?
     
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    since when is Peja and Bobby the "core" of the Kings?
     
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    Dumars has pretty much made it official.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d03/story?id=1566626
    Anyway, bad trade for the Kings. They're trading away an all-star for a potential all-star. Peja is still only 26 years old and being paid only 6 mil per year for the next 3 years. The Kings better be darn sure Melo will be a superstar before they make that trade.
     
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  14. Like A Breath

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    Peja is a 20+ scorer that shoots a high percentage. He is vastly underrated because he doesn't look or act like "a star." How can Carmelo become better than him soon enough for the Spurs? What makes Carmelo so much better than Peja? Because he smiles a lot? Woo-hoo. Keep Peja and hope that the team can stay healthy. The Kings are based on their depth, and Bobby Jackson and Peja are too much to give up for a possible Mike-Dunleavy Jr.-ish bust possibility and two other guys who will never play.
     
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  15. PhiSlammaJamma

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    22 ppg and 10.0 reb and 2.2 assts as a freshman, 20.2 ppg 9.8 reb, and 2.5 assts in the tourney as a fresh. NCAA MVP and NCAA Champion.

    He can pass out of double teams too.

    Tough to turn down someone who has those credentials. Because, quite frankly, who does.
     
    #15 PhiSlammaJamma, Jun 19, 2003
  16. YoYao

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    wow, that is like a 3rd pick for 2 all Stars. Bobby Jackson was an all star while Mike Bibby is injuryed. avg 22 points per game!
     
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    Uh. . . Peja is an all-star starter. Bobby Jackson is their 6th man. As someone mentioned, he played like an all-star when Bibby was injured. If that isn't qualified as a significant part of the core, I don't know what is. What is in your mind when you think of the core of the Kings?
     
    #17 Easy, Jun 19, 2003
  18. Like A Breath

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    Ed O'Bannon and Mike Dunleavy Jr. were also super NCAA players. Those credentials don't always translate into NBA success. Giving up two star calibur players is too much of a risk.
     
    #18 Like A Breath, Jun 19, 2003
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    Eddie Griffin averaged about 14 rebounds and 4 block his freshman year at Seton Hall, and so far, not so good.
     
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  20. Genuine

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    How bout Turkaglu and Bobby Jackson for #3 pick?
     
    #20 Genuine, Jun 19, 2003
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