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[ESPN/Ford] Many of Weisbrod's moves have fizzled

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  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Many of Weisbrod's moves have fizzled
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    By Chad Ford
    ESPN Insider
    http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&id=2015197

    Did Orlando recapture its long-lost Magic this season, or was the whole thing an illusion?

    After starting the season with a pretty miraculous turnaround (a 14-9 start), the Magic have lost nine of their last 12 and are in danger of missing the playoffs.

    Early Thursday morning, any luster that was left on the season faded when GM John Weisbrod fired head coach Johnny Davis and assistant Ron Ekker (who was in charge of the team's defense), claiming that the team needed a "new voice and direction."

    "We work in a bottom-line business," said Weisbrod. "It is our responsibility to do everything possible to create the best opportunity for success."

    Davis said he was "surprised and disappointed" by the firing and felt like it was premature.

    "I think it was obvious I was on a short leash," Davis told the Orlando Sentinel. "Teams go through tough stretches, and this was the first time we had gone through one. It's not like we bottomed out. It's not like we fell out of the picture and weren't going to make it.

    "We gave it an honest shot. I think maybe the expectations had changed along the way."

    They sure have. Last season, the Magic finished with the worst record in the NBA.

    Weisbrod, who took over the team during the 2003-04 season, went for an extreme team makeover in the summer, trading the Magic's best player, Tracy McGrady, selecting a raw high school player with the first pick in the draft and then bringing in what Weisbrod described as "sore losers" – tough, team-first players who would play a more rugged style of basketball.

    The only thing from the old regime that Weisbrod stood by going into training camp was Davis, whom he insisted was the right guy for the job.

    "I think Johnny is the right guy for what we're trying to do here," Weisbrod told Insider in October. "He's proven to me that he has the mind and the attitude to turn us into a winner."

    What changed?

    Sources told Insider over the weekend that Davis' approach was too "soft" for Weisbrod. While Weisbrod agreed with Davis' coaching philosophy, he didn't think he commanded enough respect in the locker room. When Davis would say something to Steve Francis, for example, Francis, on more than one occasion, would just ignore it.

    Davis' inability to get through to his mercurial point guard, in particular, probably did him in.

    "Johnny's a great guy," one league source told Insider. "But he's better as an assistant, I think. A head coach has to find a way to get the team to do what he wants."

    Weisbrod wanted someone who could be more forceful in getting his point across. While interim head coach Chris Gent should be able to raise the decibel level, can he really get through to Francis?

    But many of the problems in Orlando won't follow Davis out the door.

    Weisbrod has made a series of crucial mistakes of his own that appear to be holding the Magic back as much or more than Davis did.

    For starters, the McGrady-for-Francis trade isn't looking so good for the Magic these days. Three months ago, it appeared that the Magic might have gotten the better end of the deal. But those days are over.

    McGrady was slow to adjust to Houston Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy's offense earlier on, causing Weisbrod and others in the Magic organization to snicker. However, once McGrady bought in, and Van Gundy loosened the reins a bit, T-Mac's caught fire. McGrady is averaging 28 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 5.9 apg on 48 percent shooting from the field in March. The Rockets are 7-1 during the stretch. McGrady's player efficency rating (PER), according to Insider's John Hollinger, is 22.59 which ranks him 15th in the NBA. Francis' on the other hand is 19.14 which ranks him 37th.

    Meanwhile, the players that the Magic received in return are causing their fair share of problems.

    Francis' offensive numbers have remained solid all season, but the team has grown frustrated with his defensive lapses and his irritating habit of overdribbling to the point that the offense stagnates. The Magic tried to alleviate some of those issues by moving Francis to the two and starting rookie Jameer Nelson at the point, but the experiment hasn't gone well. The Magic have dropped eight of 11 with Nelson in the starting lineup.

    The tension between Davis, Weisbrod and Francis has been palpable, with sources telling Insider that it was "likely" that Weisbrod will try to trade him this summer.

    The other big chip in the McGrady deal, Cuttino Mobley, was traded mid-season for Doug Christie in an attempt to bolster the defense. That, too, turned into a major mistake. Mobley gave the Magic their most reliable 3-point threat. Christie has been a huge bust, averaging 5.7 ppg on 36 percent shooting in 21 games for the Magic.

    He was placed on the injured list on March 5 with bone spurs in his ankle that might require season-ending surgery.

    Weisbrod swapped Mobley for Christie claiming that the team needed help defensively. But as Insider's John Hollinger pointed out last month, defense wasn't the Magic's biggest problem. When pace is factored into an analysis of the points the Magic had allowed this season, the Magic's defense ranked 13th in the league, not last as Weisbrod had claimed.

    Instead, the Magic's real weakness was in offensive efficiency. When you factor in the pace that they play, their gaudy scoring numbers aren't as impressive. Once the team lost Mobley, its offensive efficiency declined and Christie proved to be ineffective on the defensive end.

    Other trades have been just as disastrous for the Magic. Drew Gooden and Anderson Varejao have been thriving with the Cleveland Cavaliers while Tony Battie, the piece the Magic got in return, has struggled.

    "Forget swapping Gooden for Battie," one league executive told Insider. "That was bad enough. But they just gave away Varejao, a young kid who looks like he's going to be a great prospect in return. I don't think [Weisbrod] knew what he had."

    Two of Weisbrod's other free agent signings, DeShawn Stevenson and Stacey Augmon, also have been disasters.

    Factor in a pretty tough schedule down the stretch and it's conceivable that the Magic won't be able to keep up with the Philadelphia 76ers for that last seed in the East. If that happens, Weisbrod won't have a lot to show from the Magic's summer makeover – just a healthy Grant Hill, Hedo Turkoglu and two promising young prospects in Dwight Howard and Nelson.

    While the additions of Turkoglu, Howard and Nelson have all been beneficial, Weisbrod could have had all of those pieces – plus McGrady, Gooden and Varejao – had he not rushed into things last summer.

    As it stands now, the team's payroll balloons to a whopping $70 million next season, limiting the Magic's ability to sign a free agent. The Magic don't have significant cap room until the 2007-08 season.

    "Ultimately we're in a bottom-line business," Weisbrod told Insider this fall, a theme he echoed in his statement on the firing of Davis. "You either win or you lose. The media and fans can say you're a hero in the summer and if you lose, you're gone. They can say you're a horse's ass in the summer and if you win, they get on board.

    "There's a scoreboard in every arena and there's standings in the paper every day. It's very clear whether you're good or bad at what you do. That's the only test."

    Given how the Magic have performed of late, Weisbrod might be the next guy to follow Davis out the door

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    Will, feel free to lift anything from this article to add to your Chad Ford / Magic signature. I think the Chad Ford Magic Lovefest has officially done the 180.
     
  2. Xerobull

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    I give this guy another year, tops, as GM, and that is only if the Magic make it to the playoffs. If we (Rockets) make it to the CF or Finals, I can see it as Weisbrod's death knell. He really is a good example of a GM that any one of us (board posters) could replace and do better than.

    J
     
  3. Yonkers

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    Is anyone else giddy just reading about this guy's misfortune? HAHAHAHA. Just remembering back to what this guy put us all through and all the crap he said makes me very happy to see him get his just desserts. :D
     
  4. SirCharlesFan

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    how did chad ford get a job with ESPN? Was he already with the insider websites when they got bought out and folded into the ESPN website?
     
  5. Mr Boo

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    Thanks for the article find Deuce. I can understand the firing of Johnny Davis, but what I don't understand is the timing. Does Weisbrod really expect Jent to work a miracle and just push the Magic through to the playoffs? In some ways, Weisbrod's actions already betray Orlando's defeat this season. The Magic are not going to make it to the playoffs this year, and the organization really needs to consider hiring a BASKETBALL orientated GM and Flip Saunders as their headcoach. Creditibility starts from the top down!
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    Who is this Chris Gent person?
     
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  8. wnes

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    Come on guys, didn't we all agree friends don't let friends read/drive Ford?
     
  9. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Not just what Weisbrod said, but other 'Orlando fans' from this bbs...funny, we don't see many posts from them anymore. :D My how the season has changed from these old threads...

    http://bbs2.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87389

    http://bbs2.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87689&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

    http://bbs2.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=1550648#post1550648

    http://bbs2.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85635
    Anyone care to rehash something they wanted to say? LOL. Yeah.
    Actually, I like what I said earlier...

    I guess what goes around...
     
  10. Uprising

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    Man, so nice to hear of Wiesass's miss-fortunes. :cool:
     
  11. SirCharlesFan

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    SRF--Those are some classic threads. I wish the one guy driving most of those type of threads would eat some crow.
     
  12. OddsOn

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    Man.....I was wondering why JVG would want to trade the Franchise....lol

    OH man.....talk about memories.....makes you want to pour sand in your eyes just thinking about it......lol

    I have open lines for all those nay sayers who were screaming about the Francis for T-Mac trade?.........anyone?? Beullar??? :D
     
  13. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    :D
     
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    "And when I say 'appeared', I mean that I wrote they may have gotten the better end of the deal. The notion that I was jumping the gun and writing a silly, presumptuous article is patently false. Some NBA analysts might have pointed out that the Magic play a free-flowing style with a point-forward in Grant Hill that was bound to make the players the Magic got look better than they were actually playing. Some NBA analysts might have pointed out that McGrady would take time to adapt his game to Jeff Van Gundy's system, but that once he did his undeniable talent would flourish. Those people would be silly, because those articles would've been boring - and if I've learned anything from Steven A. Smith - being loud and obnoxious makes you right. So as you can see, I was perfectly right in writing that article - and all the subsequent articles in which I kept changing my tone to match what was conventional wisdom that week were perfectly right. And spelling people's names right isn't important, as anyone can tell you."
     
  15. tigermission1

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    LOL! My, my, karma will haunt Weisass into oblivion.

    And BTW, Flip Saunders would NOT be beneficial for the Magic at all. Francis, as was clearly proven last year, needs a disciplinarian coach who will ride his ass all year long and not give him any room to breathe. He is just that type of person, he is out of control and always needs someone to ride him hard in order for him to be most effective.

    I don't see who is available now that would fit that bill, but any 'nice guy' or 'player's coach' personality won't work, and Sanders is definitely one of those types of coaches.

    a JVG clone is what's needed for SF3.

    --Tiger
     
  16. gucci888

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    Finally, a Chad Ford piece that I can actually read. Wisebrod has no idea what he is doing over there in Orlando, he should have stuck with Hockey.
     
  17. Severe Rockets Fan

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    I think SF showed what kind of player he was with such coach last year...not good. Steve is in his element right now...he's got his running, athletic PF that everyone said he needed instead of Yao...he's got his point forward that helps take pressure off his point guard duties...he's running and gunning at will and has the green light...he's playing in the conference that he usually 'dominates'. He's in his ideal situation, with his ideal contract...it's Stevie's world Ya'll! ;)
     
  18. SamCassell

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    If Steve has been a problem child, Weisbrod has himself to blame much more than the coach. There were no problems on that team before the Mobley trade.
     
  19. Clutch

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    What happened to "Extreme Makeover: Hockey Style"? The whispers turning to cackles? Weisbrod having the last laugh? Building an NBA team from a fresh perspective? A "more veteran, hard-nosed center in Tony Battie"?

    5 months ago Ford used the same long-winded quote from Weisbrod to close his article, setting up the poetic ending of, "It's a test the Magic might be able to pass this year." (sniff, tear)

    Now it sets up, "Weisbrod might be the next guy to follow Davis out the door."

    The funny thing is Weisbrod said then, "Tracy would say, you know, 'I had my 35, what else did you want me to do?'"

    You know right now he's going: "Steve, can you give us 25 tonight?"

    This deal was NEVER, EVER in doubt, struggles early on and all. Not once. Perhaps Van Gundy's coaching, the offensive game plan or the cast around the two stars, but that deal was ALWAYS a no-brainer. The only loss was Cato. I've said before that I gained respect for Mobley, and really like how he is shooting a career-high in threes this year (a percentage he never even sniffed for us for some reason) ... but what did he do for us that guys like Wesley, Barry and James aren't doing for us (and more) for cheaper? Taking Francis/Mobley out and putting T-Mac in took a negative situation and turned it in to a positive. A highly-marketable franchise superstar possibly BEFORE he even hits his prime? The Rockets got younger, better and their long-term outlook is so much more promising as well.

    Deal of a lifetime, honestly. We should express nothing but gratitude to Weisbrod.
     
  20. bnb

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    Well...to Tracy really.

    Weisbrod got likely the best deal he could have given his situation. Of course he's bungled everything since. Looks good on him.
     

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