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[espn.com]Fans plan rally against Gary Kubiak

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by boomboom, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5962120

    Fans plan rally against Gary Kubiak

    A pair of Houston Texans fans who believe coach Gary Kubiak should be fired are organizing a rally for Sunday to make their point, the Houston Chronicle reported.

    Fans Brad White and Scott Carter are hoping the demonstration before Sunday's season finale against the Jacksonville Jaguars will help convince team owner Bob McNair to change coaches, according to the report.

    "I want to stress that I don't want people to come out to bash Kubiak," White told the Chronicle. "We don't want vulgar signs out there. We're not there to bash him. We're there to say that we want a change."

    The Texans, who this season were thought to have their best chance of finally reaching the playoffs, instead have struggled to a 5-10 record.

    "Five years has been enough," White said of Kubiak's coaching tenure in Houston, according to the report. "We've regressed this year. Minus a couple players, we believe the players aren't responding to [the coaching staff] anymore."

    Kubiak's contract runs through the 2012 season, and McNair offered a vote of confidence for his coach two weeks ago -- after the team rallied from 21 points down to tie, but eventually lose, a Monday night game to Baltimore.

    With Sunday's loss to Denver, Kubiak's record slipped to 36-43 through five seasons.

    The Texans' defense ranks 29th overall and last against the pass, allowing 277 yards per game. Houston also has allowed 32 touchdown passes and 17 pass plays covering at least 40 yards, both league highs, and most of those defensive breakdowns have occurred in the fourth quarter.

    The Texans have led or been tied in the fourth quarter of seven of their past eight games, and lost all but one of those.

    Kubiak learned about the rally during his weekly news conference Monday, according to the report.

    "It's part of my job, and I understand that," he said, according to the report. "I came here to win games and do a job to win games. That's what Bob [McNair] pays me to do. It's not a lack of effort and work, and it won't be this week, neither. So, I'm OK with all that."

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
     
  2. MadMax

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    there are probably more important things to rally against. :grin:
     
  3. Raven

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    I've went down the list, poverty, social injustice, terrorism, heath care reform, global warming, the industrial prison complex, nope, none of them are as important as firing Kubiak.
     
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  4. DaDakota

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    No, there aren't.

    DD
     
  5. MadMax

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    close your eyes and imagine the scene. imagine the folks there. doesn't it look like the same crowd coming out of Tron:Legacy?
     
  6. Fyreball

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    This is about as tacky as the fans giving back their tickets to the Jacksonville game, but this is what we as a fan base have been reduced to doing. If Bob McNair didn't come out and say things like, "we're on the right track", the fans wouldn't feel the need to hit upside the head with a proverbial shovel. If McNair keeps Kubiak after all this, he's gonna have some 'splainin to do, that's for sure. I think McNair needs to put Kubiak out to pasture for the sake of Gary's mental health. The guy looks and sounds just flat-out beat up. I'm willing to bet he's not getting much sleep these days.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    Put your money where your mouth is.

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  8. greatpacha1

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    if he is not out...then something is wrong with McNair.
     
  9. Two Sandwiches

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DonnyMost again.
     
  10. ghettocheeze

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    The last time a larger number of people rallied against something important, they were belittled, mocked, and ridiculed to no end by many including a large chunk of the posters on this board. These protesters were smeared as racists and bigots for standing up against government funded bailouts of Wall Street and the Automobile Industrial Complex. I'm pretty confident the very next reply to this post will seek to defame that movement. Those lacking the strength and character to stand up and fight are always the first ones to discredit the rebellion and work hard to defend the status quo. Anyway, this topic is best suited for D&D so back to...FIRE KUBIAK!
     
  11. Two Sandwiches

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    Can we turn this into a fire Kubiak/Rick Smith/everyone else/hire Cowher rally?

    I think it'd get the point across more if it were a hire Cowher rally. It'd be less disrespectful, also.
     
  12. Jeff

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    Here's my take:

    Why a Fire Gary Kubiak Rally is a Bad Idea

    Seems like a lot of folks are down right pissed at Gary Kubiak these days. Texans owner Bob McNair doesn't appear to be among them, but our latest Death Watch has the poor guy on his last legs here and fans on sports talk shows are calling for his head.
    Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse for the St. Pius alum, here comes the Fire Gary Kubiak rally planned for Sunday at Reliant Stadium before the Texans final game of the year against Jacksonville. It managed to grab national headlines even though the organizer, Brad White, has said he won't participate due to "unrelenting hate mail and threats.".

    Listen, Brad, we need to talk.

    Rallies always seem like a good idea until the planning begins. If it is done well and is extensively organized with massive support from die-hard fans, the result is something akin to Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally or Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity." Without those things, chances are your participants will include three drunk guys with misspelled signs and a homeless dude who grabbed your bullhorn and started shouting, "The end is near!"

    Houston football has a bit of history with rallies, both good and bad. In 1978, after being blown out by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC title game, 50,000 fans gathered at the Astrodome in support of the Houston Oilers singing the God-awful "Luv Ya Blue." The next year, after nearly the identical outcome to the season, 70,000 fans showed up in support of the team. Those were the days.

    On the other end of the spectrum, there was the Save the Oilers rally. Planned on the steps of city hall after the team announced they would be moving to Nashville due to lack of support from the city and county for a new retractable roof stadium (sound familiar?) people laughingly called the "Bud Dome" in mocking honor of owner Bud Adams, fewer than 50 fans showed up and video of the paltry crowd shown on ESPN made Houston sports fans look like idiots.

    Organizing fans, especially for the purpose of getting someone fired, is not only tricky but kind of morally questionable no matter what you think of Kubiak. But we don't question the rally on those grounds. It's every fan's right to act like a complete jackass if he so chooses. We think the whole thing is a mistake because it makes the assumption that fans are qualified to be involved in these kinds of important decisions. Football fans in Houston once demanded that Bucky Richardson be our starting quarterback. Bucky freaking Richardson!

    Sports fans often think they are smarter than the people calling the shots for pro franchises. In the case of the Clippers or the Raiders, they might be right, but every in every other situation, they are clueless and no one should want them making decisions.

    To fans, when Mickey Mantle first joined the Yankees, he was a bum. They booed when the Rockets drafted Robert Horry instead of Harold Miner. They couldn't believe it when Larry Anderson was traded for some minor leaguer from Boston named Jeff Bagwell. At one time or another, they have called for the head of every hall of fame coach, player and owner.

    Allowing them to decide the fate of a coach is like letting your crazy uncle who lives in the woods and has no running water take care of your newborn baby for a week.

    Fans can be as pissed as they want but when they reach the point of delusions that the know more than the owner, general manager or coach, we think they should put down the bullhorn and back away...no matter how much we may agree with them.
     
  13. Angkor Wat

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    Hey if anyone wants to give their tickets back, give them to me, I'll take it there for you. :)
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    Why bother getting upset about a rally?

    These people are entitled to express their opinion.
     
  15. Jeff

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    Agreed completely. It's more about the concept. Saving a team. Rooting for a team. Those seem like good ideas for rallies. A rally to get someone **** canned just feels wrong.

    Plus, there is nothing more embarrassing than organizing something and having no one show.
     
  16. MadMax

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    To be clear...I'm not upset about it....and I don't think anyone is questioning their right to do it.

    I'd ask the question, "why bother getting so upset about a football coach that you'd go rally for his firing" though?

    honestly...it's kinda goofy. i hope he's replaced as much or more than anyone here. but i can't imagine spending time picketing for it.
     
  17. tinman

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    7 Rings, 3 teams. Never lost a first round playoff series.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Because you want to see the team win/do better?

    It's a very public position, and people care about sports and their teams.

    If they didn't, we wouldn't have this BBS.

    Why go to a protest against a public official (appointed or elected) or policy (even if it doesn't apply/affect you)?

    Same concept. People are allowed to express their opinion and organize their priorities however they wish. More power to them.

    Fire Gary. He won't starve.
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    Comes with the territory.

    McNair should be thanking his lucky stars that people actually care enough to bother rallying... because if they didn't, he'd be looking at a bunch of empty seats.
     
  20. MadMax

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    i'm not disagreeing with what they're asking for.

    and again..i'm not saying they don't have the right to do it.

    i have a right to think it's goofy, though :) i care, but i wouldn't waste an afternoon going to protest what, in the end, is nothing more than a form of entertainment.

    but i can assure you, i won't be spending my afternoon protesting their protest. they can spend as much time out there as they want to.
     

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