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Erick Zhang: China Started Yao Ming Too Early and Too Much

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Aug 12, 2006.

  1. pryuen

    pryuen Member

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    After I read that sina.com article about US doctors opposing to Yao Ming returning to court too soon, I did some more researching on the net, and I found this latest article on sohu.com: An interview of Erick Zhang Mingji (Team Yao Leader, and Yao Ming's cousin and manager) in Nanjing by sohu.com reproter Zhang Zheng.

    As I've said earlier, I surely hope CBA and Yao Ming himself know what they are doing........

    And WHY Erick Zhang or Houston Rockets management did not do anything about this ?? :mad:

     
  2. compucomp

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    Your thread title is extremely misleading and is also flamebait, especially for this web site. I predict this thread will soon become an anti-China flame-fest, while the title of the original article said "Zhang Mingji: The CBA has been very responsible to Yao", and the article itself doesn't bash the CBA at all. Come on, you should know better than to mislead here where the anti-China trolls will take it and run.
     
  3. pryuen

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    Alright....I admitted I might have purposedly picked the topic in order to attract more readership. :p

    But IMHO, if we read from between the lines, Zhang Mingji is not exactly that happy about this whole thing himself.......and that title of "CBA has been very responsible to Yao Ming" from the original sohu.com article is in fact misleading. How can CBA be called responsible, if what Zhang Mingji said is true ??
     
  4. Jonhty

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    Flamebait maybe. But misleading??
    Ok Eric Zhand didn't actually say that. But based on the doctor's advice, they did start Yao too early and too much. That's a fact. And in the article Eric did imply that Yao may have taken unnecessary risks by playing against Germany though he kept the general tone positive toward CBA which is consistent with anything he has said about CBA before.
     
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    Carmello anthony got hurt in the Games

    Should Denver sue the Olympics or try to do something about it?

    It is not the Rocket's Place to tell the Chinese
    Government how to treat its Chinese Citizens

    Rocket River
     
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    Amen to that.
     
  7. Champ06

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    If the above is according to what the doctor order, definitely this instruction was not carried out accordingly. Yao played against Germany on the 11th, that was, before 13th. Yao played 21 minutes against Germany which is more than the maximum 16 minutes(under 4 mins per quarter, therefore should be less than 16 mins) he should be allowed to play. This also translated into Yao played more than the limited under 4minutes per quarter.
     
  8. yeo

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    Exactly.

    The Rockets played Yao in a meaningless game and got him hurt, and there wasn't anything the CBA could do about it, and rightfully so. This is the same situation here.

    Whenever players play, they run the risk of getting injured. The only way they can totally avoid injury is to quit playing altogether. Yao is only playing because he wants to play and feels he is ready. Why don't we trust him to know what's best for himself and stop trying to start flamebaits?
     
  9. A00man

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    They should have an input due to the millions of dollars invested in Yao.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Do you know the details of whatever agreement (in writing or in practice) the Rockets have with the CBA? It isn't just a matter of the Rockets telling "the Chinese Government how to treat its Chinese Citizens". Pulleease. Yao is coming off foot surgery and his career could be at risk if he tries to come back too quickly. I think it's clear the Rockets should have some say-so in Yao's status. Didn't they just sign him to a guaranteed maximum contract?

    And don't compare Carmelo to Yao. Melo had no injury beforehand. If Yao was uninjured and the Rockets tried to dictate his offseason schedule, then we have a major debate. But let's not be simplistic. Yao had FOOT SURGERY, not a sprained pinkie. If you know anything about the Chinese government, they don't allow anyone to dictate anything to them. Just ask any U.S. President since 1950.
     
  11. heypartner

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    pryuen,
    correct me if I'm wrong, but compucomp is suggesting you should have posted the thread at yoamingfanclub.com's forums.

    and compucomp, correct me if I'm wrong, you are overthinking this 'anti-china troll" thing. if those trolls really exist, they would be posting at the fanclub.com.

    the trolls here are more likely going to be pro-china trolls. or maybe you just don't understand what the word "troll" means.

    bottomline: pryuen came here to post because he wanted more exposure than he got at the fanclub. that's a fact. and as a result, he'll get objection on posted stupid takes by very bad chinese journalist who are in fact trolls.

    get a clue. we are trolls here.
     
  12. holyMark

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    Dose ANY government allow anyone to dictate anyting to themself??
     
  13. pryuen

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    So should I stop posting here on Clutchfan site or RealGM and just refine to posting on YMM ??

    I don't think I am doing it just for myself. I am a no-body, and I don't need this kind of exposure. I'm doing this all for free, using my own free time out of my adoration and admiration of Yao Ming as a great player and a great person. He is really the pride of every Chinese.

    I just want the readers here who cannot understand Chinese have another perspective through my translated articles a better understanding of Yao Ming as a player and a person, as he is often understated in the Western media as a player, and not that much coverage of him while he is away from USA.

    And surely this thread that I created did not mean to be flamebait. If this really is disturbing to you guys, then Moderator, please lock it up.
     
  14. A_3PO

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    pryuen, please keep posting. Whatever your motives are, you bring fresh information on Yao (and pictures) most of us would miss. When I visit the forum in the morning and see you are the last poster in the Summer Activity thread, I automatically open it first.
     
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    Well, I expect people to discredit articles from Chinese meida unselectively, so...
     
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    Huh? :confused:
     
  17. Tha TC

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    heypartner did u get that apple on the very top branch? u know the bright red shiny one? because you are REACHING! pryuen is one of the few people who take time to translate chinese articles and post them on CF, RGM etc. if you dont like what he's saying/posting then dont read it.
     
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    I've never been so disapointed in some people as i was in the China V germany thread. the way people were blasting yao was unfair. he was coming off an very serious injury and in his first outing, he put up some descent numbers. what do you people expect from him?.. 40 points coming off a broken leg?. give him time. let him get his match fitness up, then expect some big numbers. look at the bigger picture.
     
  19. Tha TC

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    It was a broken foot not let and yeah he was supposed to be out 4-6 months more than likely 6 because of his size and the amount of pressure his foot is under carrying his weight. and then again its dirk we're talking about people.
     
  20. pryuen

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    Well, I could have misunderstood what Hey Partner posted.

    But I don't think this article from sohu.com is yet some other fabricated ones that sina.com is so notoriously famous for.

    I read the previous article from sina.com (by Zhang Qiong) a few days ago with skeptism; I did watch out over the various forums for any updates on that "rumour" of USA doctors opposing to Yao Ming returning too soon to court. Then I saw this article by Zhang Zheng on sohu.com today.

    It seemed genuine. The event, timing and people all fell into places. Richard Zorn and Keith Jones were officials with the US national team who were in Guangzhou last week, and of course, if the reporter dares to fabricate an interview like this with Erick Zhang Mingji, then maybe Erick Zhang will sue him for libel or damage.

    When I did my translation, I usually did it selectively and picked on ones that at least looked genuine and not fabricated ones. I also checked Houston Chronicles, ESPN, latest news on Yao Ming in foreign media to ensure those were not straight or modified translations from the foreign media. When I came to names that I don't know, I used to Google-search to find out the English equivalent of them (I spent at least 10 minutes to Google to know who Dr. Richard Zorn is from the Chinese translated name in that article.)

    Well, sometimes I did make mistakes like the one I did on Tracy McGrady working hard on his rehabilitation at home, not knowing that the reporter, another Zhang (Zhang Meng) made it up by watching a TMAC workout video of the previous season. I became the laughing stock over YMM, RealGM and here......

    But I don't really care. I'll just be me, and stick to what I am here for. I'm to let the world know more about Yao Ming, my idol, an outstanding player and a great person.

    Maybe in future, I'll just skip doing any more translations for this forum and others on Chinese articles by Chinese reporters of the surname Zhang. :rolleyes:
     

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