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Erdogan claims Muslims beat Columbus to the Americas

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Erdogan claims Muslims beat Columbus to the Americas
    Turkish president revives disputed evidence that famous explorer found a mosque when he arrived on Cuban shore in 15th century


    Muslims discovered the Americas in the 12 century, nearly 300 years before Christopher Columbus made his famous voyage there, according to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey.
    His words, delivered in a televised speech, will lend support to a controversial theory that has been debunked repeatedly by historians.
    That did not seem to bother the conservative Turkish president during a summit in Istanbul of Muslim leaders from Latin America.
    "Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," he said.
    Mr Erdogan went on to say that Columbus described the existence of a mosque on a hill by the Cuban site and that Ankara was prepared to fund a new place of worship for Muslims there.

    "I would like to talk about it to my Cuban brothers. A mosque would go perfectly on the hill today," the Turkish leader said.
    History books say that Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492 as he was seeking a new maritime route to India. Other accounts suggest he may have been beaten there by Leif Erikson, a Norse explorer, or by the ancient Phoenicians
    A tiny minority of Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbus ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found.
    In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape.
    And while Columbus is frequently credited with discovering the country that became the US, he actually never set foot in it, exploring instead the Caribbean and the South and Central American coastlines.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ms-Muslims-beat-Columbus-to-the-Americas.html

    And in other Erdogan news:

    For price of palace, Turkey's Erdogan could have stopped Ebola


    If Tayyip Erdogan's brutal crackdown on protesters in Taksim Square wasn't enough to convince you that he's an autocrat, maybe his crazy new palace will do the trick.

    With the Islamic State knocking on the door and around a million Syrian refugees living in his country, the Turkish president inaugurated a fancy new palace that he had built for himself at a cost of $615 million.

    Let that sink in for a second. $615 million.

    What does that buy you these days? The Ak Saray, or "White Palace," comes with 1,000 rooms, 3.1 million square feet of space, and the title of largest residential palace in the world. (Previous record held by the Sultan of Brunei.) It's four times the size of Versailles, for historical comparison.

    That sounds about right for $615 million. But there are plenty of other things Erdogan should have done with that money. Here are 7 of them.

    1. Deal with the Syrian refugee crisis in his own country

    Around a million Syrians are now living in Turkey, having fled a horrifying civil war and the new arrival of the Islamic State. The UN Refugee Agency needs almost $500 million to care for them this year. Erdogan could have footed the bill and still have $115 million left for more reasonably appointed palace.

    2. Stop Ebola

    United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) estimates that it would cost $987.8 million to end the current Ebola outbreak. Add Erdogan's palace to the money other countries have already contributed and you'll exceed the magic number.

    3. Cover humanitarian aid needs in several countries for an entire year

    As of Aug. 2014, OCHA estimates it would need to raise $9.9 billion dollars to cover global humanitarian aid needs for the year. Erdogan's palace could make a big impact in high need areas like Syria, Sudan, South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Somalia, which need billions in aid. And it would cover the entire aid needs of many other countries, including Afghanistan ($406 million), Iraq ($312 million), Central African Republic ($565 million), and Yemen ($592 million).

    4. Forgive student debt for 21,200 Americans

    This would be awfully generous, but hey, why not, when we're building giant palaces. Total student debt in the United States now stands at $1.2 trillion, with the average debtor carrying $29,000. Come on, Tayyip, help us out.

    5. Give every person in Ankara $136, or $44 for every person in Istanbul, or $8 for every person in the entire country

    There are 4.5 million people in Ankara, 14 million people in Istanbul, and 75 million people, altogether, in Turkey. Instead of building a stupid palace, Erdogan could have just handed out a bunch of money. Seriously.

    6. Hire 24,415 experienced teachers for a year

    In Turkey, a teacher with 15 years of experience earns an average of $25,189 (compared to a US average of $38,136). So instead of building a palace, maybe hire a bunch of teachers.

    7. Buy the reigning NBA champion San Antonio Spurs

    If Erdogan is going to insist on indulging himself like a Sultan, he could at least buy a decent sports team. Technically, the Spurs are valued at $660 million, so the palace won't cover it, but maybe some haggling will bring the price down.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/11/06/globalpost-turkey-erdogan-palace/18583857/
     
  2. heypartner

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    Someone tell Erdogan that this means the Muslims sucked at Imperialism vs the Christians.
     
  3. Mr. Brightside

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    Leif Erickson falls in a faint.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    The Columbus stuff is goofy, but there really is no reason to kvetch about a sovereign country with a trillion-dollar economy building a residence for it's head of state.
     
  5. percicles

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    Dude everyone knows the Vikings got here first.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8WLaCSubU

    (can't embed that one)
     
  7. shastarocket

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    pfffw, Erdogan would never buy a SodaStream, they have a manufacturing facility in a West Bank settlement and are headquartered in Israel!
     
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    Pshh. Chuck Norris got here first. As a matter of fact. Chuck Norris was the first man on earth.
     
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    Erdogan Ürmstrüng, a Muslim, was the first man on the moon...
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    The first person to heaven was a Jew...the Koran even says that.
     
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    This is almost turning to some weird quasi Muslim nationalism...

    Why the hell even bother lying about something no one even really cares about.
     
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    Because it fits into his Islamofascist view of the world. By saying that Muslims were first to the Americas, the USA are also on "Muslim land"...remember...that's the excuse for Palestinian terror and the excuse for terror in all the countries with American bases - Mathloom uses it.
     
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    The Waltons just donated $800m for an art museum in Arkansas. Why didn't they stop ebola instead?
     
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    Good question. Obviously that article was somewhat tongue-in-cheek...
     
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    On the other side of the world....

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    ...and won 5 Tour de France titles that he later had to give up due to cheating.
     
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    Muslims don't cheat. Must have been an infidel disguised as a Muslim.
     
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    What ever crap medication you taking, it ain't working atw
     
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