Islam is peaceful? And revisionist... at least some Muslims are... Egyptian Columnist Calls Holocaust a Lie link Outrage over a columnist's description of the Holocaust as a lie prompted a front-page clarification Wednesday in a weekly newspaper published by Egypt's ruling party. Al-Lewaa al-Islami, or "The Islamic Banner," said that two columns by Rifaat Sayed Ahmed expressed only "the opinion of the writer, which is subject to discussion, agreement or rejection." Editor Mohammed al-Zorkany said in an interview with The Associated Press that he had not expected the columns in the Islamic-oriented weekly to generate controversy. Ahmed himself was unapologetic. "The issue should be the Holocaust that the Palestinians are going through, not the Jews," said Ahmed, who heads a think tank that researches Palestinian and Lebanese Islamic movements. "The West has a serious problem of double standards." Al-Lewaa al-Islami, a minor publication of President Hosni Mubarak's National Democratic Party, is only the latest Egyptian media outlet to face accusations of anti-Semitism. Two years ago, state television was criticized in Israel and the United States for broadcasting a dramatic series whose plot turned on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," a well-known anti-Semitic work. Egyptian cartoonists also regularly picture Jews as hook-nosed stereotypes in state-run or state-influenced publications. Egyptians and other Arabs argue that such material simply expresses Arab anger at Israeli policies, not hatred of Jews, and often express bafflement at Western sensitivity over the Holocaust. In his columns earlier this summer, Ahmed had written that to justify the founding of Israel, "the Zionist movement ... resorted to means that are closer to lies and myths more than reality and truth." Among these tactics, he wrote, was "the lie of burning the Jews in the Nazi gas chambers during World War II." Ahmed's articles were translated by the Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute, which maintains a media center in Jerusalem and translates articles in Arabic and Hebrew into other languages to give them a broader readership. In a statement last month, the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization dedicated to preserving the memory of the Holocaust, said Ahmed's columns were intended "to increase the hatred of Jewish people, demonize Israel and her Zionist supporters and desecrate the memories of the victims of Nazism." Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Wiesenthal Center, urged Mubarak and his National Democratic Party to "publicly denounce and dissociate themselves from this big lie." Mubarak's spokesman, Maged Abdel Fattah, did not return phone calls from the AP seeking comment. On its front page Wednesday, Al-Lewaa al-Islami said it had received a number of messages and phone calls about Ahmed's columns, "some pro, others against, wondering if they represent the view of the national party, the newspaper and the editor." Editor al-Zorkany said he did not question the Holocaust. "Hitler was against humanity, not only against the Jews," he said. - - - - - Non-muslims need to wake up. Read the 9/11 Comission Report if this is not convincing enough. Islam is NOT inherently peaceful. "Death to the infidels." Wake up. Now they revise history too.
they're baffled over western sensitivity of the Holocaust? families are pulled apart....gassed...awful experiments....unbridled hatred... i'm baffled at any insensitivity that might exist for this. baffled and troubled.
Thanks IROC, on you insistance, I'm going to go kick muslim ass everytime I see it. BTW, how come all the crazy stuff in the Bible and groups like the KKK don't make you feel like starting threads where you condemn all christians? Christians not only have called the Holocaust a lie, they're the ones who did it! gotta go!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . Sorry, I saw an Indian guy and mistook him for a muslim, good thing he confirmed his non muslimness to me before I really crossed the line. Wait, is that a turban? He could be a Zeke, but I'm not taking that chance.
How incredibly irresponsible. I remember touring Ann Frank's house with a German couple we'd met, who were in their mid-20's. I had been there before, but the 2 wanted to see it, and my wife never had. The guy teared up and his girlfriend started weeping. It's pretty emotional, going there... to say the least. Germans don't deny it happened, and it sickens them. Why in the hell would someone write this. The idiot racist should be fired.
Where did ever insist such idiocy? I merely said "Wake up." As in stop thinking that Islam teaches peaceful co-existence. That is the biggest lie of Islam. Why does Islam hate every other belief? I'm not sure, but that doesn't negate the teaching to hate me if I don't assimilate. Never have I condoned violence against Muslims. I never will either. Next.
Bush has called it a religion of peace, gasp, will you take that step and say he's wrong? Good job avoiding the rest of my post. Will you condemn Christians because of the actions of a few as well?
Thats a pretty lofty statement on an entire religion based on one columnists beliefs. Do you assume that all muslims think like he does? or just enough for you to legitimize opposing their existence? remember, a lot of hatred that America gets from people overseas comes from people who were hurt from a small segment of America, which they interpreted to represent all of the US. Hate doesn't stem from nothing, you know. The guy is certainly an idiot, but I'm not going to make that a reason to assume a culture that I you are not exposed to daily is inherently evil. Nothing seems more illogical to me than believing a small segment represents the whole. If 9/11 and this article is enough for you to believe that all of Islam, that ALL muslims are inherently violent, then I'd say you already had your mind made up way before the peacefulness of Islam was questioned.
But denying war crimes during WWII in Japan is fashionable and "honorable". I hate to say it, but US has its fair share in looking over it because of far-east policy. Therefore, Japanese emperor got away with the punishment the Germans faced, and those war criminals are still memorized in their holy temple. Due to those two atom bombs, Japanese always believe they are the victims. They actually are, but they fail to understand and deny that there were tens of millions more victims in Asia in their bloody hands.
i can't remember the forum...but the japanese defended their rape of the pacific by saying, "look...you guys have done it for years. europe..who are you to say we shouldn't be imperialistic? united states...after the phillipines, who are you to say we shouldn't be demoralizing our enemies with rape and torture?" doesn't speak well for the japanese war effort...but their point was valid nonetheless. no nation's history is spotless. i could go off on some excellent theological points right now...but i'll spare you all! you know what i'm going to say, anyway!
What you say is true to an extent, I believe - from my conversations with Japanese friends, it appears to me that they had a different way of dealing with the past than we did in Germany. You sound like you are Korean?
I got your point, since we are all sinners, and we shouldn't judge people. Why don't we just live freely, kill and hurt as we want to. Follow the natural rules, you are stronger and have more powerful weapon, then you can just take others as slaves. Coz there is no wrong or right, and we were all wrong before
Alls I'm going to say is that nobody is perfect. Judge people on what they do, not by waiting for another person of a similar background to do something awful and then condemning the rest for it while avoiding similar acts by people of your shared background.
What in the world does Isiah Thomas have to do with this? . . . . . . . . . . . . Oh, you meant Sikh. Never mind.
I am Chinese. I've lived in Germany for more than 7 years, and I saw how they dealt with the past. And I've encountered some Japanese, their common response was, well, it's history, everyone has his own version of it, why do you want to bring this up? You see the difference here I liked Germany very much, and I can't say I trust Japanese.
