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Edwards and the religious left

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  1. basso

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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2693.html

    [rquoter] Edwards Blogger Flap Discomforts Religious Left

    By: Ben Smith
    February 9, 2007 09:09 AM EST


    As the flap over alleged anti-Catholic writings by two John Edwards campaign bloggers devolves into a shouting match between conservative religious voices and liberal bloggers, some members of the "religious left" say they feel – again – shoved to the margins of the Democratic Party.

    "We're completely invisible to this debate," said Eduardo Penalver, a Cornell University law professor who writes for the liberal Catholic journal Commonweal. He said he was dissatisfied with the Edwards campaign's response. "As a constituency, the Christian left isn't taken all that seriously," Penalver said.

    Democrats -- and Edwards in particular -- have embraced the language of faith and the imperative of competing with Republicans for the support of religious voters. His wife, Elizabeth Edwards, even sits on the board of the leading organization of the religious left, Call to Renewal. But in private conversations and careful public statements today, religious Democrats said they felt sidelined by Edwards' decision to stand by his aides.

    "We have gone so far to rebuild that coalition [between Democrats and religious Christians] and something like this sets it back," said Brian O'Dwyer, a New York lawyer and Irish-American leader who chairs the National Democratic Ethnic Leadership Council, a Democratic Party group. O'Dwyer said Edwards should have fired the bloggers. "It's not only wrong morally – it's stupid politically."

    O'Dwyer e-mailed a statement to reporters saying: "Senator Edwards is condoning bigotry by keeping the two bloggers on his staff. Playing to the cheap seats with anti-Catholic bigotry has no place in the Democratic Party."

    In a comment that several Catholic Democrats told The Politico they found particularly offensive, Edwards aide Amanda Marcotte asked, in a posting to her personal blog, "What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit?"

    The other Edwards blogger, Melissa McEwan, has come under fire for referring to Christian conservatives as “Christofascists” in her personal blog.

    Thursday, the campaign issued a statement from Edwards saying that he had been personally offended by the remarks and that the bloggers "have both assured me that it was never their intention to malign anyone's faith, and I take them at their word."

    The campaign also sent out semi-apologetic statements from each blogger saying she was sorry if anyone was offended.

    And so religious liberals find themselves in a quandary. They have no interest in associating with the likes of William Donohue, the Catholic League president who is closely aligned with the GOP and led the charge against Edwards' aides. Donohue said Thursday he would take out newspaper advertisements attacking Edwards as anti-Catholic. But religious liberals also think Edwards' aides merit more than a slap on the wrist.

    “I thought his explanation was not satisfying," said Cornell's Penalver. "It's obvious that they did mean to give offense."

    "You imagine a similar kind of comment directed at the Jewish community or at the gay community – something at this level of intentional offensiveness -- and I have a hard time believing it gets resolved in the same way," he said.

    The Catholic Alliance, which stresses that fighting poverty and social injustice are Catholic values, sent out a careful public statement Thursday afternoon,

    "We accept Senator Edwards' assurances that he too was offended by comments made by recently-hired staffers and that religious intolerance has no place in his campaign," the group's executive director, Alexia Kelley, said in the statement.

    But in a mark of how religious Democrats are fighting a war on two fronts, Kelley also took a passing shot at Donohue in an interview.

    She said she hoped that Donohue would hew to the Catholic value of forgiveness in forgiving the bloggers – as Donohue had notoriously forgiven Mel Gibson. [/rquoter]
     
  2. rodrick_98

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    see: republican party, fiscal conservatism
     
  3. MadMax

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    am i on the religious left?

    man i hate labels. i don't like being called religious, left or right.
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    Its a crowded field for the Dem. nomination. If they don't like Republicans they have other choices than Edwards.
     
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    Can anybody post the full blog entries that originally caused the uproar (if that is indeed what this is)? Something tells me this isn't as big of a deal as it is made out to be in the article.
     
  6. mc mark

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    It wasn't anything the two women posted on an Edwards blog. Some religious nutjob wanted them fired for what they said about the catholic church on their own blogs before Edwards hired them for his.

    Why the religious left (whatever that is) is getting upset I have no idea.
     
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  7. No Worries

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    Why the religious left (whatever that is) is getting upset I have no idea.

    Better said, why is this one person on the religious left so upset?

    It appears that the wingnut bloggers are making a mountain out of this mole hill. I guess they need something to keep themselves busy after the Pelosi-using-military-planes story turned into a nonevent.

    See The significance of the Edwards story.
     
  8. ShakeYoHipsYao

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    Haha! We win. You lose.

    NYT
     
  9. weslinder

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    First this, then Obama backing out of the Democratic candidates forum. Hilary is getting an easier walk to the nomination than any candidate since Gore.
     

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