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Eddie Griffin's rise.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheHorns, May 30, 2003.

  1. TheHorns

    TheHorns Member

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    LET ME PREFACE THIS WITH THE REASON I DO NOT POST IN THE ROCKETS FORUM IS B/C THE HIGH RATE OF EITHER HOMERS OR HATERS, SO PLEASE LET'S ALL BE HONEST AND REALISTIC.

    I personally saw signs of very good things from Eddie in his rookie season that were not developed by the coaching staff last season. Should a new coaching staff work with him, keep him in line, teach him things, get him away from the 3 pt line, could he be that star that he was projected to be in the draft?

    Which of the coaches that are potentially a coach for this team could get the most out of Eddie and what type of stats do you think that could result in?
     
  2. finalsbound

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    That's what Eddie's shot looks like.

    We need somebody who will teach him to make his shot go like this:
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    That's all there is to it.

    I think Eddie could someday be an 18, 12, 3 player. He needs to learn how to shoot and handle/dribble the ball.
     
  3. SLA

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    lol. I agree....but he isn't motivated. He needs to get stronger.....shoot more consistently....learn how to dribble and drive inside...and hopefully he has solved his personal issues and conflicts.
     
  4. OmegaSupreme

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    oh... i see. so, he needs to learn how to play basketball. that's true. :p
     
  5. brentdapmp

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    Eddie needs to get his head out of the CLOUDS and show passion. He looks too content on just being out on the floor showing no emotion. I would like to see him get excited or get mad and get a tech from a ref. ANYTHING PLEASE. And unless he starts to put some weight on he does not need to be a power forward in this league. Jermaine O'neal is built like eddie except Jermaine has worked on putting some muscle on to be able to bang down low. Eddie needs to wake up and put down the doobie.
     
  6. RocDreamer

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    Eddie put some weight on last offseason and hopefully will again this offseason. What I find interesting is that coming out of college Eddie had a repuatation for being firey. Especially at his teammates, but he did show emotion. Maybe not in the best ways, but he did. Where did it go?
     
  7. OUTITAN

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    up in smoke?
     
  8. finalsbound

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    His passion died when his brother did. :(
     
  9. codell

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    That's what Eddie's pulse rate looks like too. ;)
     
  10. Yetti

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    Eddie needs to clear his head , stay in the clean air of the Mountains of Colorado. Come back to Houston feeling refreshed, be welcomed by the Head Coach and taken under his wing. Eddie needs to feel wanted and know that he is an important part of the teams present plans. He must get the idea into his head that the Coach actually insists on plays involving Eddie and that Eddie doesnt have to score every time the ball arrives in his hands. If its Coach Brown, I feel sure that Eddie will either be traded or made into a significant NBA Player and part of the Team.
     
  11. Bogey

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    I like how everyone seems to think that Eddie has no desire or doesn't work hard. Does anyone here know Eddie or what he does in the offseason. He did put on some mass over the last offseason, so maybe he does work on it. Just b/c he doesn't show the emotion on the floor does not mean he doesn't care (see Duncan). Every body bases there opinion of him on a joint that was found in his car (which I knew a lot of 20 year olds that did the same). On the other hand, I've never met him either, so maybe he is lazy, but I'll give him the benifit of the doubt for at least another season.
     
  12. SLA

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    lol....basically!
     
  13. JoeBarelyCares

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    I'm not buying it. You have 1200+ posts! You know you love us homers and haters. :)
     
  14. B-Bob

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    Yes, his shot, his pulse, and his learning curve, all in one elegant graphic.
     
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    Yeah, after his rookie season, I also thought EG had some potential. However, unfortunately I don't think even the Clippers consider themselves a developmental team. If you come to the NBA you should be ready to play, and EG with just 1 year of college ball simply isn't ready for professional basketball. I think if he stayed in college these last 2 years, he'd be so much more ready to contribute to an NBA team. So I guess, in answer to your question, I'd say Larry Brown would be the coach most likely to help EG develop into a decent NBA player. I can see Larry Brown succeeding in college right now, and I bet lots of college teams would love the opportunity to have him on their bench, teaching players. That's the type of coach EG needs to be ready for the big show.
     
  17. TheHorns

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    Damn it there's one now!
     
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    I could not agree with you more, but you know what you are wrong. The reason Rudy is gone is b/c this league is a developmental league.

    The people Rudy was able to coach were people who earned respect therefore they demanded it. They knew Rudy had walked in their shoes.

    Now the league is full of teen aged kids who have had their @$$es kissed since they were in 6th grade b/c they were the best player on their respective teams or league for that matter and they get to the NBA still needing a lot of coaching and development.

    While in HS the coaches are just telling the other kids to get the ball to Kobe, to KG, to Rashard, LeBron and so on. Now they are at a level that they may well be good, but the gap has closed and they are forced to play TEAM ball or improve individually. Well, if they have never played that type of ball, you must be instructed. No one here will EVER convince me Rudy was a good "INSTRUCTOR" thus he is no longer the coach of a team that has a core of players in Steve, Cuttino, Ming, & Griffin who are in need of instruction, and he could not and did not deliver.

    Steve has only gottem marginally better since he arrived here, Ming did not progress last year in many areas. His best games and the times he showed the most abaility were early on, after that it was back to the same thing they did last year except there was a guy who was 7'5" down low in the event he was needed.

    Much the same could be said for Eddie.

    A new coach can & will help, provided its the right one.
     
  19. sydmill

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    EG has Chris Simms disease. He tries so hard not to screw up that his intensity wanes and he starts to make mistakes and he loses his confidence forcing more mistakes. Eddie is going to be good, he just needs to grow up (physically and mentally). If we get Brown or Silas I could see EG being a 15/10/3/3 player in 2 years.
     
  20. Deuce Rings

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    I've been extremely disappointed by Griffin's play early in his career. However, we drafted him after his freshman year in college and while players that jump straight from high school or one year of college have had some immediate success in recent years, a lot of them have not. Jermaine O'Neal is the perfect example. After being drafted by Portland, no one heard of this kid for 3 years. He made enough noise his final year in Portland to get the attention of the Pacers and once he got to Indiana, he bloomed. I hope we'll see Eddie mature and play better in the next two years, but I have to admit it's awfully tempting to give up on him right now. But how would everyone feel if the Rockets traded Eddie for some spares and then watched him turn into a star a few years down the road. The guy was projected to be the best college player in that draft a few years ago for a reason.
     

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