Eddie Griffin labled as biggest rookie disappointment by ESPN

I totally agree with ESPN. He has been a huge disapointment for the Rockets. They should've had Oscar Torres listed as a suprise.

 

(Im already out of the spelling thing)
These Idiots seem to forget we have a Shooting Guard who is just that . a Point Guard who dribbles 19 seconds a posession , A very capable Small forward in Walt Williams . What did Griff do last night? all he did was shut down Rasheed Wallace , outrebound him and outscore him ... until halftime when he went off on us . Griff really needs another year before he can become a good player , labeling him a dissapointment this many games into the season is not fair to EG . He should be putting up numbers like Gasol? Thats assanine, Gasol is getting 39 mins a game while Griff is only getting 15

 

Griffin is young and it is early in the season It is ridiculous to call him a disappointment. Right now he is basically putting up the same numbers in the same minutes (all of which should go up as the season progresses) as Swift did at the end of his rookie year.

So far this year, Swift is putting up 14 and 7. Again, Eddie seems a little ahead of Swift and his numbers should increase. Next year, he should show the same type of improvement Swift did. It is hard for skinny big men to adjust, especially when they are so young.

Moe, Gasol is also more experienced.

 

This is BULLSHI****T!! Rudy, and the players (that wont pass to Griffin) is a big part to blame for Eddies numbers.

HOW MANY TIMES, did anybody get the ball in the post last night (PORTLAND)?

Griffin - maybe once at the start of the game
Cato - never
Willis - maybe twice!!

When KENNY THOMAS is in the game, how many times does he get the ball in the post? about 50/50

When Maurice Taylor was in the game, how many times did he get the ball in the post? about 50/50

WHEN HAKEEM, BARKLEY, HARRINGTON, etc... played for us, how many times did they get the ball in the post? ALWAYS!!!!!!

RUDY IS COACHING LIKE AN IDIOT!!! ONE DIMENSIONAL!!! you do now have your PF's (and everybody else) waiting at the 3 point line all night!!

Eddie has shown some good turnaround jumpers, and other shots in the post. Problem is he rarely gets the ball, or a play ran, that would allow him to catch the ball in the post.

 

He is not getting the ball because he can't make a basket. Why should we be passing the ball to a 29% shooter. I like the kid and I think he will be good some day but, right now we need the ball in the hands of someone that can break the 30% mark. That leaves TMO out because he too is shooting 29% but, he is getting better lately, which is more than I can say for EG.

 

ESPN can bite me.

 

I could give a rat's ass if he scores more than 10 a game, I am impressed with his defense(blocks!) and rebounding so far. Let him grow up. What does ESPN know anyways???

Rat Bastards!

 

ESPN sucks doggy do!

The nerve of them....Rockets at 28 in the Power Rankings....we'll be bahk, they'll see!!!!

 

My sentiments exactly, Wink3Cat5!

All I'm looking for from Eddie this year is rebounding and defense. Offensive production, especially from post players, comes with experience.

 

Nope, we're not biased:

Griffin is playing exactly 3.1 more MPG than Tyson, and is 5 months older, and was picked 5 slots lower.

Griffin is playing 1.6 more MPG than Kwame, is 2 months YOUNGER, and picked 6 slots lower.

Right now, here are some telling stats for youngsters:

Griffin, in the most minutes averages just 1 PF per game
Kwame averages 1.6 PF per game and Chandler 1.7 PF per game

Griffin averages .46 turnovers a game. Tyson Chandler is at 1.24 TO a game, and Kwame is at .78

Griffin averages 1 block a game. Chandler averages .82 blocks per game, and Kwame averages .44.

Griffin averages 3.4 rebounds per game. Chandler averages 2.4, and Kwame has 3.5. (Eddie and Kwame are equal in defensive boards.)

FG% are not comparable, as Eddie is shooting 3s due to Rudy and/or Moochie freaking waving him off to set a pick and watch on the perimeter. Still, Kwame is shooting an unimpressive 36.4%, and Tyson at 48.9%. While Eddie droops at 29.9%.

FT%, Tyson is shooting 53.6%, and Kwame is shooting 36.4%, and Griffin shoots 71.4%.

Eddie averages 4.1 ppg, while Kwame gets 3.9 points per game, and Tyson gets 3.6 ppg.
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What I get from this?
-Eddie is the most developed, as he makes the fewest "youthful mistakes" (fouls and turnovers), and to this point, the biggest difference maker defensively.
-Kwame is a slightly better rebounder at this point, and Chandler needs to add weight and muscle to be able to rebound well. -Chandler has the most untapped athleticism (gets high percentage shots, and solid block numbers), but not much of a skill shooter (FT%)
-Eddie has the most range on his shot (neither Chandler nor Kwame attempted any 3s), but not the consistency in his outside shot

The number differences are negligible, Eddie was the lowest pick of the group, and the middle in terms of age. Yet, Eddie has been a dissapointment, and those 2 are "Don't give up yet".

Maybe it's because one's from Chicago, where Michael used to play, and the other is in Washington, where Michael currently plays?

Eddie played great D on Sheed, I could've sworn Sheed had more turnovers. In the 2nd half, the Rockets played EG sparingly, and Sheed got off.

Some thoughts on the D of the Rockets: Moochie's D sucks. Mobley is good on D this year, Francis has been serviceable but Moochie is porous as ever. Scoring PGs light him up (see Jason Williams). Take one of the last plays, Stoudamire walked right past Moochie, so Mobley and Morrishad to slide over to prevent the layup, and Derek Anderson had a wide open 3. Anyone who is receiving help from Eddie or Cato or Willis needs to get in front of their man, or do something useful.

Too many times, Willis or Eddie had to help, and the guards stood their watching them, as Sheed or Kemp stepped back, received a pass, and had an easy jumper because the big man couldn't get back in time.

Eddie has good hands down low, and has the moves to go with his height and length to be effective down low, but the only people willing to pass it to him are Torres and Morris. IMO, Morris is probably the only player playing unselfishly. The only other player you could possibly put in that group is (gasp) Cato, and sometimes Torres.

 

Espn should write about the biggest dissapointment being them.
Their channel sucks and Does not hold a Candle to CNNSI.
Some of the crap they air on that station. The sporting humor lacks and is very dry <forgot to laugh> Eddie will be a superstar he showed it last night. Bulk him up and hes a monster.

Anyone see him guard KG when the wolves came to town? I did
Rook had that wolf tucking in his tail.

 

As far as Cato goes, he is actually playing hard. Not 42million hard but still a good effort for him...

 

DUH!!!!!!!!
If the only shot he gets is from the 3 point line, then what do you expect his percentage to be.

Kenny Thomas is equally as bad at the 3 point line, but nobody is b****ing about his 3 point percentage.

THE POINT HERE< is that Griffin is not being allowed to play the natural PF (or center) position offensively. He is used, 99% of the time, as a high pick leaving him at the 3 point line. DO YOU THINK that a 19 year old is consistenly running that play without Rudy's blessing. RUDY IS A JOKE!!!

 

NIKEstrad very astute post.

 

R U SERIOUS!?!? he doesnt play much at all and mark my words, eddie will be a better player then kwane Brown. (ans IS)

 

I think the guys that came out of high school should be given a lot more slack than Griffin, simply because he played a full year of college and they didn't. When you factor in that he played a year of college, and his team has about the same record as the teams of the 3 high schoolers, and they're still putting up the same or better numbers than Griffin, then yeah, I might have to call that a bit of a disappointment.

 

lol! Some of you guys are crazy in here. You expect way too much from Eddie Griffin. I am in a way right expecting him to do other stuff. Tell you the truth, the way Rudy is playing Eddie, he wont get that much better than he is right now. Eddie first needs to just start working out, get stronger during the year. He needs to also stop taking alot of shots from the outside. Hes very great at rebounding already and his defense is great and will get better.


When Eddie misses his shots, dont go off crazy on him because hes missing. Look at the way it happens. Eddie doesnt touch the ball for a long ass span of time, he gets the ball and he wants to shoot, so he misses. The thing I love about him is he will do whatever it takes to shoot. That shows he wants to be a scorer and thats a good sign. Hope he doesnt jack up shots like Mobley.


Eddie Griffin needs to just be used better and get the ball more often.