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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jan 12, 2020.

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If the president survives his impeachment trial and is re-elected in 2020 >> Trump Dynasty?

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  1. Amiga

    Amiga Member

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    Enjoy.

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    In his typically blunt fashion, Republican consultant Rick Wilson claims the U.S. will never be rid of the Trump family if the president survives his impeachment trial and is re-elected in 2020.

    Getting right to the point in his Daily Beast column, Wilson writes, “Eight years of Trump sucks, right? It’s terrible, isn’t it? I mean, it can’t get worse, right? Right? Oh, you cockeyed optimists.”

    Adding, “If he wins in 2020, we’re never getting rid of these dolts,” Wilson said the re-election of Trump will guarantee, “the rise of the Imperial Trumps, a family cult built on the remains of the moldering corpse of the GOP, featuring all the warmth of North Korea’s Kim dynasty and a kind of Hapsburg-jawed je ne sais dumbf*ck rien.”

    “Get ready for Donald Trump Jr., a man who speaks the fluent assh*le dialogue of the own-the-libs Trump Party, to rise to the top of the 2024 GOP primary ranks. The dynastic talk that was once treated as a joke (even by me) is already growing around both Don Jr. and Ivanka. Poor Eric is left out, but then again, he always has been,” he continued.

    As Wilson sees it, the Trump family has found a personal goldmine by inhabiting the Oval Office, allowing them to funnel money into the family coffers with no restraints — least of all from fellow Republicans.

    “The Trump family—including the creepy automaton Jared Kushner—will continue to view the American government not as a sacred trust but as an ATM for their crapulous enterprises and nation-state-level grifting,” he wrote. “By the fall of 2019, it was clear that Trump had even managed to suborn the military into spending money that benefited his resorts and golf clubs when stories broke of Air Force cargo flights to the Middle East making unusual stops at his golf resort in Scotland for hotel accommodations and fuel.”

    “The ambition that drives the Trump spawn these days is powerful, and the corruption and collapse of the GOP as a party will enable their dynastic fantasies to play out with real consequences for the country. The Orange Kardashians will have the brand power of Trump, as well as the shameless hucksterism of Fox and the degraded conservative media, behind them,” he continued. “Mark my words, even the “respectable” elements of the conservative media will soon be producing think pieces on why Don Jr. is the bridge from raw Trumpism to a smoother, smarter populist nationalism.”

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  2. B@ffled

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    I hate the idea of the Bushes, the Clintons, the Trumps, the Kennedys, the Rockefellers etc., etc., continuing on as if their bloodline is divine. This country isn't a monarchy.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    It ain't a monarchy but it is a democratic republic meaning we vote in our leaders and the average constituent cares more about name recognition than actual content of their polices and character.

    Why do you think Joe Biden is in the lead in the DNC primaries? Because of name recognition and that's about it.
     
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  4. Invisible Fan

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    I'll vote for Michelle or Oprah first
     
  5. dachuda86

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    As long as the Dems seem to actively work against American interests, and have a lukewarm affinity for the nation and constantly seek to brow beat people into being more like other places, those who wrap themselves in the flag will be more adored. Trump takes this thing in a landslide in 2020.
     
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  6. KingCheetah

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    Liberals lack trigger discipline.
     
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  7. dobro1229

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    Hot garbage take of the day. Dude the #1 issues the Dems have been and will be running on is expanding healthcare coverage. Please tell me how that is working against American interests? Agree or disagree with their execution of the matter all you want, but it’s undeniably a domestic American interest.

    If Trump wins it will be because of the culture wars. Conservatives fear of losing their leave it to beaver utopia. He won in 2016 because of this plus some issues like trade where rust belt voters took a gamble on him they might not take again given how incompetent he has shown himself to be on the issue.

    If you think voters really care about “American Interests” you haven’t been paying attention for awhile. Just turn on FoxNews right now... what are they talking about...Liberals war on Thanksgiving... Liberals war on Christmas... The War on Dollar Stores (yes... the other day they ran two segments on this topic).

    The core issue for Trump voters is Culture change. Every policy issue has that as its core driver for Trumpers. Immigration. Climate. Healthcare. In the end, the way they vote on those issues is how they see the issue in regards to how putting a liberal in charge of changing our policy on those topics changes their perceived culture.
     
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  8. dobro1229

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    On the topic of course Trump will try to install a monarchy. He’s already doing that. Don Jr. and Ivanka trying like hell to earn Logan Roy’s appointment in clear daylight.
     
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  9. RayRay10

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    Republicans said the same things about the Clintons (and the Obamas). We’ve seen how that’s turned out.

    One thing about presidents, the longer they stay in office, the less popular they become, and the less popular those associated with them become. Trump’s already extremely unpopular and it’s likely that won’t improve even if he’s re-elected.

    It isn’t as though those opposed to him now will suddenly jump to his side after reelection. It also isn’t likely that the economy will continue to “flourish” as it has.
     
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  10. Space Ghost

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    Im not sure if OP posted this in jest.

    Is this the new cry? If we dont get rid of Trump now, we are going to have a Trump dynasty? Its no wonder why the DNC is struggling to get a candidate in the white house. They actually believe Trump Jr is a threat. The only way Trump Jr gets elected is to put a candidate on the ticket worse than him ... and honestly, that is very possible.
     
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  11. Rocket River

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    Seems like more of a rotation of people the "kingmakers" select.
    People like Mitch have enormous power without being President
    He catches some blame but probably not as much as he should
    Trump gets more than Mitch even though Mitch may have done more ****

    Mitch/Koches/etc prefer the kingmaker role

    Demo . . .Repub . .. they all seem to answer to the same small group of people


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  12. Rocket River

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    Ivonka is more of a threat though
    Pretty . . .I have not heard her talk enough but seems smart enough
    Rich . .. travelled. . .and would be the 1st woman president
    (I dunno if she old enough)
    Repub men want to f**k her
    Repub women want to be her
    She has not said or done anything in particular that was horrendous
    (bad maybe not not horrendous that I know of )

    Rocket River
     
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  13. FranchiseBlade

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    As long as there are people ignorant enough to believe that Democrats are actively working against American interests, it is always possible to have a Trump dynasty.
     
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  14. dobro1229

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    God do you post anything that doesn't end up at whataboutism "The Dems are just as bad" nonsense? Have some balls, and just admit you are a Trump die hard if that is the only commentary you are going to add to nearly every topic.

    Yes this was probably in Jest, but there certainly will be some truth to the threat if the Republican party as a whole refuses to protect elections, and the courts back up Trump moves to disregard election results.
     
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    I don't think @Space Ghost is a fan of Trump.

    I just think he can't justify how his center right conservative ideology has been co-opted by Trumpism and now is trying to pretend "both sides are the same" as a coping mechanism.

    A lot of moderate GOP voters are in this phase currently.
     
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    Honestly, I don't think the other Trumps have the skillset Donald Trump uses to cajole allegiance, and not the smarts to do it some other way. Of all of them, I'd think Ivanka Trump has the most potential, and maybe she can pull it off if the party clears a path for her. But I don't like her chances so much in a contested primary. The Trump base wants a belligerent man, not a dainty little woman. She'd have to patch together a new coalition.
     
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    It's used as excuse for ending up casting the vote in the end. There's just no way to keep a straight face, and argue that somehow EVERY Democrats is just as bad as Trump on nearly every topic unless you are just trying to either suppress Democratic voters, or you are just struggling with your inevitable decision to come home to Trump in November. You're creating an alternate reality as a coping mechanism for what you are inevitably wanting to do.

    You either like Trump's policies, and brand of politics, or you don't. This mechanism of whataboutism to try and justify is nonsense. Just be honest with yourself and others.
     
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    I don't think it's a clean either-or . . . it might be more helpful to think in terms of a spectrum of taste/distaste for Trump and his policies, and on more of an issue-specific, case-by-case basis. I really don't think it's a 'love him or hate him' binary
     
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    In terms of his comparison to Democrats it is love or hate in relation. Just think of the knots you have to tie yourself in to think that Biden is just as bad as Trump because his son sat on an oil & gas board of a private Ukraine company vs. the million grifter things that Don Jr. and Ivanka do to sell on their daddy's name on top of just obviously blatant foreign power entanglements that tie back directly to US policy. See Jared and the Saudi's. Ivanka and trademarks with the Chinese govt. etc.

    It's just not objective to say that one is not at a whole other level than the other.

    With Trump policies it's even more extreme. It's just clear night and day from a policy perspective. Yes.... Dems F up alot, and there are lots of opportunities to be critical, but that's a given. These are human being put into government positions. Foul ups are going to happen.

    So yeah the whataboutism I find incredibly disingenuous. You can have a nuanced discussion about every issue, and compare to the Dems sure... but if every answer is "The Dems are just as Bad" then I don't think you are being honest about how objective you really are.
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    She's the "compassionate uniter" when debt, corporate malfeasance, and climate change comes home to roost.

    You bleeding hearts better forgive... Or you're hypocrites!!!
     
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