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Dream Shake vs Shanghai Shake

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lancet, Dec 21, 2002.

  1. lancet

    lancet Contributing Member

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    Yao Ming's Shanghai Shake against Paces has been clearly one of his most memorable NBA moments. Amazingly similar to Hakeem's Dream Shake against David Robinson. Ming said that he watched many of Dream's tapes. Clearly he had learned well.

    I watched the two videos over and over. Their moves are almost identical. The minor difference is that Dream is more atheletic, and Ming is taller. Dream's shake was pretty much on Robinson alone, while Ming's shake was against 3 Pacer defenders. Ming is so tall that when he start faking, it almost impossible to stop. Even if you are just a little too late, he will be gone.

    Just post here to refresh your memory. :D

    Dream Shake:
    http://www.nba.com/0001Video/olajuwon_shake_052495.avi
    http://www.nba.com/0001Video/olajuwon_shake_052495.mov

    Shanghai Shake:

    http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/ming_y_lup_021219.avi
    http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/ming_y_lup_021219.mov
     
  2. robbie380

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    i dunno of yao's move was one of the nba's most memorable moments. if you mean for this year then sure.

    also that move that dream put on robinson wasn't a classic dream shake. the dream shake is the baseline turn around jumper. that move dream had on robinson was called "the red headed step child" :D
     
  3. codell

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    Lancet,

    I hate to burst your bubble, but in the first Hakeem video, that is not the Dream Shake and in the first Yao video, that is not the Shanghai shake. For some reason, the 2nd videos didnt come up so I dont know what they were of.

    To clarify, the Dream shake was when Hakeem had his back to the defender down on the low block and then does the little shake as to confuse the defender with regards to which way hakeem would spin. After the Dream Shake, Hakeem would either spin clockwise and shoot the turnaround or spin into the lane and shoot a jump hook or what not.

    Same premis with the Yao Shake or Shanghai Shake.

    What gets me is, I know the Shanghai Shake is a popular phrase coined by Bill Worrell, but to me, its not really the same as the Dream Shake in that Yao's fake isnt as defined as Hakeem's was. In fact, maybe Im just spoiled by Dream's shake, but Ive never noticed Yao doing any type of fake at all before he shoots the turnaround. Also, when Yao does shoot the jump hook in the lane, he usually dribbles himself into that position, rather than spinning into the lane off of said fake.

    In the end, there is just no comparision. Dream's shake was much more crisp, defined and created more separation than Yao's does.
     
  4. sydmill

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    Yao has to do a lot more than win a couple of preseason games before you can compare him to the man. If Ming can continue to play this well once the real NBA season starts, and do it year after year, then maybe you could think that (but keep it to yourself al the same).
     
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    :confused:

    you must have the slowest modem ever...
     
  6. lancet

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    robbie, I was refering the move as one of Yao's most memorable NBA moment.

    codell, thanks for the classification. I guess the first video is not a dream shake, it is only an Olajuwon shake (by file name). I haven't fully researched what the correct meaning of Shanghai Shake, but the second video was described as the "Shanghai Shake" in the official Rockets recap of the Pacers game.

    Thread title should be "Yao's best Dream Impersonation."
     
  7. lancet

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    Hello? Someone give sydmill a wake up call. It is already one third into the season! Lakers are having the same problem...
     
  8. cas

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    lol dude. what time zone do you live in? it's already 25 games into the season.
     
  9. SLA

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    lol....


    ANYWAYS. Hakeem The Dream Olajuwon was The Best... when Michael Jordan wasn't playing.

    I watched him play and he was awesome.


    They are two different players.
     
  10. Apollo Creed

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    I hate the name "Shanghai Shake" just because Bill coined it. Every time I hear him scream it out, I cringe. I often mute the TV when he starts saying it over, and over, and over again.

    And you can't compare the two either, at least right now. The Dream was beyond smooth in his movements. Yao is too, but you compare him to Hakeem and he looks jittery by comparison.
     
  11. sydmill

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    ***** please! the playoffs are the real eason everything else is practice
     
  12. TheFreak

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    Sydmill, cool handle. Keep knocking down those threes.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Yawn.
     
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    What is the Shanghai shake, because tonight, Bill said it when Yao took a turnaround jumper?
     
  16. Lil Francis

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    Its no contest comparing Ming's move to Hakeem's move. Olajuwon was as quick as alot of guards in the NBA back in his prime and Ming is not blessed with that type of ability. Ming is a good player but Olajuwon was a freak of nature.
     
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    lol a freak of nature.


    Yao is still the best of his class of 7-5+ players.
     
  18. DanTanna

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    robbie380,

    I always called Hakeem's move against the mermaid "Take me to the WOOD SHED"!
     
  19. Timing

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    Exactly. There is no Shanghai shake. I've seen about every game and I've yet to see Yao Ming do a shake move prior to his shot. Bill Worrell is just making crap up.
     
  20. codell

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    Thank you for confirming what I have seen also. I mentioned this earlier. Ive never seen Yao do a shake before he takes that turnaround and if he does do it, its so minor, that its virtually unoticeable.
     

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