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'Draw Muhammad' Cartoonist Goes Into Hiding After Assassination Threat

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    'Draw Muhammad' Cartoonist Goes Into Hiding at FBI's Insistence After Assassination Threat

    The Seattle cartoonist whose artwork sparked the controversial "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day!" has gone into hiding at the advice of the FBI after being targeted by a radical Muslim cleric, according to the newspaper that published her comics.

    Molly Norris has moved and changed her name, the Seattle Weekly said Wednesday, after U.S.-born Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki placed her on an execution hit list. Awlaki -- who has been linked to the botched Times Square bombing and cited as inspiration for the Fort Hood massacre and a plot by two New Jersey men to kill U.S. soldiers -- reportedly called Norris a "prime target" for assassination and that her "proper abode is hellfire."

    "You may have noticed that Molly Norris' comic is not in the paper this week," Seattle Weekly Editor in Chief Mark Fefer wrote Wednesday. "That's because there is no more Molly."

    "The gifted artist is alive and well, thankfully. But on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, 'going ghost': moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program -- except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab," Fefer wrote.

    Norris ignited a firestorm in April after drawing a satirical cartoon to protest the decision by cable television channel Comedy Central to cancel an episode of "South Park" over its depiction of the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit.

    In her cartoon, Norris mockingly proposed making May 20 "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day!"

    Soon after, a fan page popped up on Facebook, but Norris wrote on her since-shuttered website that she had nothing to do with it.

    "I did NOT 'declare' May 20 to be 'Everybody Draw Muhammad Day,'" she said, adding that her idea was satire that was "taken seriously, hijacked and made viral."

    "I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off," she said.

    The 27-year-old Facebook page creator -- a Canadian woman who asked not to be identified due to fears of reprisal -- told FoxNews.com in July that she was visited at her home by Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials who advised her to remove her page and not to talk to reporters.

    "I'm scared," she said. "I'm scared that somebody might kill me."

    Islam strictly prohibits the depiction of any prophet as blasphemous and the "Draw Muhammad" page led to Facebook being temporarily blocked in Pakistan and sparked angry street protests.

    In July, English-language Al Qaeda magazine "Inspire" attributed an article to Awlaki, saying Norris "should be taken as a prime target of assassination."

    "The large number of participants makes it easier for us because there are more targets to choose from in addition to the difficulty of the government offering all of them special protection," wrote Awlaki. "But even then our campaign should not be limited to only those who are active participants."

    He warned that "assassinations, bombings and acts of arson" are all legitimate forms of revenge against the creators of blasphemous depictions of Muhammad.

    "Now, with the defamation of Muhammad reaching the shores of America, I wonder whether the patriotic American Muslim will still have the audacity to claim that he enjoys the right to be a Muslim in America?" Awlaki wrote. "Does he understand that this right includes his duty to fight against those who blaspheme his Prophet?"

    Awlaki invited Muslims worldwide to "stand up in defense" of Muhammad and for their efforts to "manifest in all appropriate" means.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/16/draw-muhammad-cartoonist-goes-hiding/
     
  2. Dei

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    Am I eligible for this after borrowing 20 million?
     
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    These are the types of things that make Americans think Islam is a farce. As much as I disagree with people intentionally provoking Muslims, tolerance for such an act like this should be maintained. You don't see Christian death threats every time someone draws Jesus. :confused:
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Not very tolerant, any way to get to the Imman and wack him first?

    DD
     
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    yes.

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  6. B-Bob

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    That's an apple to an orange. Do Christian's forbid representations of Jesus? Not according to the 3D wall clock vision in my office.

    Come up with something really offensive to us (ridiculing the crucifixion or having a "**** the virgin mary day"?) and see what would happen. I would still bet no death threats but a bunch of people would be pissed.

    I think it's really stupid that people make death threats against the guy, but like wearing honey and walking naked into a forest, you can kind of predict some things. So I feel no sympathy whatsoever for the cartoonist. If he has a brain, he knew this would happen, but he clearly wanted the attention. (Or we can make him a martyr for his "bravery" against Islam. ... rolls eyes.)
     
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    Maybe you should read the facts first before commenting. You clearly did not.
     
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    I wish Muslims would show more public anger towards fellow Muslims that make Islam look to be a backwards religion of violence and intolerance.
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    It is precisely this reason that ATW is posting these things, by not coming out against the backwards Immans calling for death, they are, by their silence, approving of it.

    If everytime an Imman said something like this, he was shouted down inside his own faith, there would be a lot less of the anti-Islam sentiment.

    You Isolate the radicals, and make them fringe elements, the Christian faith has done that, though in it's history there have been plenty of the same type of stuff, the Spanish Inquisition, the Pope killing the Cathars in France, tons and tons....but they religion matured and grew past that.

    Islam seems to be in it's own dark ages right now, the radicals are driving the perception of it around the world, the moderates need to take control of it.

    I doubt it is anymore a religion of violence than any other, but right now it is being hijacked by radicals.....got to marginalize them, not put them in government, IMO.

    DD
     
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    I think she's referring to people like ATW that insisted this was a necessary day, consequences be damned for others. Good job helping ruin her life in your quest for "freedom of speech."

    We can clearly see that having this day was a brilliant idea that made a huge difference in the world for the forces of good.
     
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    Yes, clearly May 20th worked so well.

    Too bad ATW is not a recognized voice within their faith. As we see in wars all across the world (Afghanistan and Iraq, for example), anytime an outsider attacks people, they will band together in defense of each other even if the outsider has good motives or is trying to help. It's the reason why uprisings from within always are far more effective than those forced from the outside.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Agreed, but people that are effected by it have no choice but to stand up against it, you can't walk on eggshells, someone has to point out the hypocrisy of peace vs. violence.

    DD
     
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    Interesting that Major seems to be a lot more concerned with directing his anger at me than at those who issue death threats. Shows where he stands and what his priorities are.
     
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    You want to know what's such a funny coincidence?

    The only person I had ever heard say the word "Imman" was that Quran-burning pastor.

    You are the second person.

    It's Imam btw.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    So that is your main concern in this thread, a misspelled word?
     
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    would you feel sympathy for a woman who wore provocative clothing to a bar, and ended up getting raped? did she likewise deserve it?
     
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    I would add, more generally, that I wish everyone would put more effort into "policing their own" rather than scrutinizing those outside of their circle.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    I stand corrected, thanks....any thoughts on the topic?

    DD
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    Depends on the bar.
     
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    What should be my concern?

    I didn't realize there's anything to debate here.
     

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