Drafting 1st for generational talent vs. guaranteed title

...a title, there isn't anything else to discuss. In 40 years the only top pick to actually lead his team to a title before leaving was Duncan. I don't care who the top pick is it clearly doesn't assure a title. LeBron showed pity on Cleveland and got a title for him and Kyrie.

Fun competitive basketball is not hard to achieve. The Rockets have had that plenty over the last 30 years.

 

Seriously? Anyone that votes 1st Pick should have their account banned.

 

Yep whole point of the NBA is to win the title. Get the first pick and you may or may not get a title vs a guaranteed one, you take the latter.

 

God, what I’d give for a title.

 

1st pick, probably Flagg but open to other possibilities.

Part of the fun in being a fan is the ups and downs...

As a kid watching the Rockets go through the gauntlet is something ill never forget. All the clutch moments that gave us the name Clutch City.

A guaranteed ring is no fun. Would not even watch if i knew the outcome ahead of time.

Give me this supposed generational talent and ill just enjoy the ride.

 

A title of course. What a weird question.

 

Cooper Flagg is not a generational talent. To me a generational talent is someone on the level of LeBron, Curry, Jokic, Hakeem, Jordan, Shaq level. So if someone like that is available at #1 and you can guarantee me the 1st pick, then yes i will take the generational talent over the sure fire title.

But if you're just asking Cooper Flagg or title, that's a different question

 

Easy title, it’s not even a question….. today’s NBA is all about freedom for the players. Almost no one stays with a team anymore. Dirk? Kobe? Duncan/Ginobli? That’s kinda it since the turn of the century. No way in any world is it not a guaranteed chip.

Hypothetical stays hypothetical tho.

 

That’s a tough question, although a title is the ultimate goal how you get there can have an impact on how you feel about a team. For instance, Toronto winning by getting Kawhi for just one year doesn’t really feel that great compared to Hakeem winning it for Houston.

If you’re saying this is a guaranteed ring with someone like KD joining for a year vs drafting Flagg and knowing you’ll never win then the choice is obvious. But if you’re saying this is for a chance to win with KD for one year now vs a chance to win with Flagg a few years from now then I would go with the draft.

 

There is no such thing as guaranteed title......how have you been bribing Silver......

 

What a silly question. The poll results so far reflect that

 

He’s asking a hypothetical question of course. No sane person would choose anything other than a guaranteed title. A bird in the hand…

 

I dunno if Flagg is at the level where you'd feel confident enough in a dynasty to trade a title. He's good but not as complete of a prospect as Wemby or even Luka imo. I actually like Aj Dybantsa next year way more than Flagg.

 

There's no difference. The excitement of picking the top guy is as large as the devastation of them flopping. More importantly, excitement and devastation are not important at all, unearned media attention has no value. When we win they'll give us attention and call our guys stars, it's that simple. We saw it towards the end of the first half of the season where we were being talked about everywhere.

There are no guaranteed franchise players. For every Lebron or Wemby there is a Zion or Embiid or Banchero that you shouldn't build around. I'll tell you what the unearned media does: it hypnotizes you away from the fact that Banchero is one of the least efficient 6'10 guys of all time taking this many shots.

Grass is always greener on the other side. You still have to be great at developing your generational talent and that talent has to have the mental fortitude on a stage larger than they've ever imagined.

The kicker of course is the new CBA. I think with supermax extensions entering the $70m phase, it is idiotic to put all your eggs in one basket. It's not different than not diversifying your stock portfolio. Injuries are real. The mythology about needing a certain specific kind of superstar is just an idea.

I think we are going to crush teams with our more balanced team and we struck gold locking Sengun and Green into less than max contracts, effectively reducing their highest salary for the rest of their careers and setting the tone for upcoming extensions. If we get Jabari and Tari at reasonable extensions, that's another step towards a dynasty.

Imagine how you'd be feeling if we drafted Wemby and he had a blood clot condition that's notoriously chronic. We felt this way with Yao remember. "No biggie". But you truly never know with such guys. Putting all your eggs in the Wemby basket after all we know about every single player that height is insane. It was good for us because he wouldn't have been our only guy but I don't envy the Spurs.

Even 2 of our core can be flops and we would not need to rebuild. If Wemby's blood clots go the way they normally do (chronic), they will have to start all over because Castle is not worth continuing with and Fox will bail.

You can't just look at talent. Mentality, attitude, health can all end a career. Depression and bipolarism can end a superstar career. There are no more questions about our top guys except skill and muscle development. Thank god we're not going to be heliocentric for a long long time.

I think we are built perfectly for the new CBA. We are positioned to create a dynasty if we don't piss away lots of picks on just speeding up the process by 2 years (trading Green and 4 picks for Booker for example).

Stars become available in trade and FA all the time, we can acquire whatever skills we need. Doesn't have to all be invested in one person. You have to put 4 other guys out there anyway.

 

Drafting 1st for generational talent vs. guaranteed title



There are no guarantees other than death and taxes! AND even if you go down the rabbit hole with the generational talent rout, health/refs/Silver can always make an audible and thwart any championship run! You have to be either clairvoyant or a genius time traveler to accurately predict the future!

My two pennies: Keep watching the Simpsons to see what the elites want to happen next.... I digress.

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