i wanted to know next year rockets picks......how many do rockets have and what number are the picks...... anybody know
0 - 1st (Les sold it to Utah so he could make some money) 1 - 2nd (woohoo! That ought to be good for a 6 page thread of over analysis)
Sorry but you are incorrect. We sent Utah Chicago's obligation to us which will most likely be a 2nd rounder in 05 and 06.
I thought the deal went like this: Rockets give up: 2004 first round draft (lottery protected) Rice Chicago 2004 first round pick or Chicago 2005 and 2006 second round pick additional consideration (a few million in cash???) Rockets get : $6.5 million trade exception Amaechi Sacramento second round pick (year???) conditional second-round pick (year,team, condition???) Thus we potentially gave up two first round picks, but more likely will give up one first round pick and two seconds.
I believe okierock is right, at least according to this article: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/031001/6/uw8l.html
Hopefully we can turn the trade exception into more first round picks. Losing next year's pick may not be that bad of thing, since the Rockets need experience over youth at this point. Letting the trade exception expire without gaining players/picks would be a very bad thing.
1. We gave up our 1st round pick to Utah. 2. The order of the draft isn't established until about a week after the NBA finals so that question is impossible to answer in certainty. For a projected draft order you could go to www.nbadraft.net but that's just a projected draft order based on projected records.
I have read nothing that says we give up our 1st rounder lottery protected or not. Only the Chicago pick. I also have not read that we get two 2nd round picks only one. I could be wrong but I hope I am not.
From NBA.com: Houston trades Glen Rice, a first-round pick and additional draft consideration to Utah for John Amaechi, a 2004 second-round pick and a conditional second-round pick. The additional draft consideration that went to Utah, I believe is the Drew obligation, which is highly likely to be 2 2nd round picks. So essentially, No Worries has it right.
Plus the Chicago Obligation. How many times was that brought up in threads? Dozens? Hundreds?? And it was given to Utah with that first rounder. (insert roll-eyes here) Pretty stunning, no? Especially if we don't use the exception.
Said it before, will say it again....terrible, terrible trade, long term. Really bad. Pissed me off almost as much as the original Rice acquisition did at the time and ever since...
from NBA.COm http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/amaechi_093003.html Jazz trade John Amaechi Amaechi Salt Lake City – Utah Jazz Sr. Vice President of Basketball Operations, Kevin O’Connor announced today that the Utah Jazz traded center John Amaechi and a second round draft pick (received from Sacramento in the Keon Clark trade) to the Houston Rockets for small forward Glen Rice and Houston’s first round draft pick in 2004. The pick is protected to within lottery range. Additionally, Houston gives the Jazz a conditional first round pick in 2004, acquired by the Rockets from Chicago in 2000. If Chicago retains the pick then the Jazz will receive two second round picks from Chicago, one in 2005 and 2006. Utah also receives additional consideration from Houston.
When calling the Rice deal a bad trade, some of you are ignoring the trade exception. So essentially, this deal remains somewhat incomplete until we decide what to do with that exception. Hard to judge it overall until we do so.