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Douglas Feith's Pentagon Manipulated Data?

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  1. F.D. Khan

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    Douglas Feith
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Feith

    Looking at his biography, why would he EVER have anything against Iraq??
    If he manipulated data based on his extremely close ties to Israel, I would
    brand him a traitor.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070209/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_pentagon_intelligence

    WASHINGTON - Pentagon officials undercut the intelligence community in the run-up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq by insisting in briefings to the White House that there was a clear relationship between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, the Defense Department's inspector general said Friday.

    Acting Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the office headed by former Pentagon policy chief Douglas J. Feith took "inappropriate" actions in advancing conclusions on al-Qaida connections not backed up by the nation's intelligence agencies.

    Gimble said that while the actions of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy "were not illegal or unauthorized," they "did not provide the most accurate analysis of intelligence to senior decision makers" at a time when the White House was moving toward war with Iraq.

    "I can't think of a more devastating commentary," said Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich.

    He cited Gimble's findings that Feith's office was, despite doubts expressed by the intelligence community, pushing conclusions that Sept. 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta had met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague five months before the attack, and that there were "multiple areas of cooperation" between Iraq and al-Qaida, including shared pursuit of weapons of mass destruction.

    "That was the argument that was used to make the sale to the American people about the need to go to war," Levin said in an interview Thursday. He said the Pentagon's work, "which was wrong, which was distorted, which was inappropriate ... is something which is highly disturbing."

    Rep. Ike Skelton (news, bio, voting record), D-Mo., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said Friday the report "clearly shows that Doug Feith and others in that office exercised extremely poor judgment for which our nation, and our service members in particular, are paying a terrible price."

    Republicans on the panel disagreed. Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., said the "probing questions" raised by Feith's policy group improved the intelligence process.

    "I'm trying to figure out why we are here," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss (news, bio, voting record), R-Ga., saying the office was doing its job of analyzing intelligence that had been gathered by the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

    Gimble responded that at issue was that the information supplied by Feith's office in briefings to the National Security Council and the office of Vice President Dick Cheney was "provided without caveats" that there were varying opinions on its reliability.

    Gimble's report said Feith's office had made assertions "that were inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community."

    At the White House, spokesman Dana Perino said President Bush has revamped the U.S. spy community to try avoiding a repeat of flawed intelligence affecting policy decisions by creating a director of national intelligence and making other changes.

    "I think what he has said is that he took responsibility, and that the intel was wrong, and that we had to take measures to revamp the intel community to make sure that it never happened again," Perino told reporters.

    Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman denied that the office was producing its own intelligence products, saying they were challenging what was coming in from intelligence-gathering professionals, "looking at it with a critical eye."

    Some Democrats also have contended that Feith misled Congress about the basis of the administration's assertions on the threat posed by Iraq, but the Pentagon investigation did not support that.

    In a telephone interview Thursday, Levin said the IG report is "very damning" and shows a Pentagon policy shop trying to shape intelligence to prove a link between al-Qaida and Saddam.

    Levin in September 2005 had asked the inspector general to determine whether Feith's office's activities were appropriate, and if not, what remedies should be pursued.

    The 2004 report from the Sept. 11 commission found no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terror organization before the U.S. invasion.

    Asked to comment on the IG's findings, Feith said in a telephone interview that he had not seen the report but was pleased to hear that it concluded his office's activities were neither illegal nor unauthorized. He took strong issue, however, with the finding that some activities had been "inappropriate."

    "The policy office has been smeared for years by allegations that its pre-Iraq-war work was somehow 'unlawful' or 'unauthorized' and that some information it gave to congressional committees was deceptive or misleading," said Feith, who left his Pentagon post in August 2005.

    Feith called "bizarre" the inspector general's conclusion that some intelligence activities by the Office of Special Plans, which was created while Feith served as the undersecretary of defense for policy — the top policy position under then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld — were inappropriate but not unauthorized.
     
  2. hotballa

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    yes the Jews knew about 9/11 and that's why they got all their people out of the buildings before it happened! Look on Google for it, the truth is out there. The Israeli Conspiracy is alive and well.
     
  3. mc mark

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    I don't think he's referring to 911.

    We all know the office of special plans was created by rummy and deadeye dick to feed their version of intelligence to the American people to support their war of choice. It's just nice to see the validation.
     
  4. ymc

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    It is obvious that Feith is part of the Israel lobby. No wonder he did what he did.

    My take on the Israel lobby is kinda neutral. They are just very good in playing our game. They didn't break any laws. What they did might harm US interests as a whole. But then it is our political system that allows this to happen. Instead of blaming them, we should instead fix our system. But it is harder to be said than done.
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    He has worked for the government of Turkey. He has never had 'close ties' with Israel beyond the fact that his former law partner was an Israeli. He writes papers on Israel, and apparently supports Israel, but insinuating a massive Zionist Jewish conspiracy and treason just confirms more of my opinion regarding your supposed 'neutrality' which you have often repeat with regards to Israel/Palestine.
     
  6. basso

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    from the wapo, emily litella speaks:

    [rquoter]References to Feith's office producing "reporting of dubious quality or reliability" and that the office "was predisposed to finding a significant relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda" were from a report issued by Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) in Oct. 2004. Similarly, the quotes stating that Feith's office drew on "both reliable and unreliable reporting" to produce a link between al-Qaeda and Iraq "that was much stronger than that assessed by the IC [Intelligence Community] and more in accord with the policy views of senior officials in the Administration" were also from Levin's report. The article also stated that the intelligence provided by Feith's office supported the political views of senior administration officials, a conclusion that the inspector general's report did not draw.[/rquoter]
    never mind.
     
  7. ymc

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    Whether he is treasonous is debatable but he sure has strong ties to Israel:

    board member of JINSA
    honored by Zionist Organization of America
    co-founded One Jerusalem
    director of Foundation for Jewish Studies
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    He writes about and strongly supports Israel, but just to be sure I looked up 'ties' in the dictionary, and it indicates a two way relationship. That does not exist here. He supports Israel, somewhat fervently, but they have less ties to him than the government of Turkey. He is drawn to and supports Israel. His only real tie is that he is Jewish.
     
  9. ymc

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    I suppose Clinton never had sex with that woman then....

    I don't think many people here can agree with you because he did push way more issues for Israel than for Turkey. But again we can agree to disagree.
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    Not trying to disagree that we disagree but, are you saying that the dictionary definition is wrong in the common parlance, and that a one way relationship qualifies, or are you saying that Israel provides support to him?
     
  11. ymc

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    He is Jewish. His dad was a member of Betar (a right-wing Zionist organization). You were saying since Israel government didn't pay him a dime, so that direction doesn't exist. But my thinking is that some people do work for "free" (or intagible rewards) as oppose to hard money.
     
  12. hotballa

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    i think the Jews plotted everything. The leader of the Freemasons is a Jew and he ordered Bush to invade Iraq to show to the Arabs that they can't keep on bullying the jews. The Jews conspiracy has been screwing America for ages, it's time we put a end to this nonsense and send em packing back to Israel where they belong.
     
  13. TreeRollins

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    It is dangerous to label a whole group of people like this. Most well informed people know the israeli lobby via most of the jewish-american community is extremely powerful. Most of the influential neo-cons were jewish. This being said, there is no monolithic jewish agenda. Many of the leading voices against the neo-con agenda are jews as well. Do the names Chomsky, Goodman and Feingold sound familiar. I have a good jewish friend (not really a practicing jew) who is very critical of the state of Israel. Although I will agree with you that the united states should not be so beholden to israel, I think painting all jews with such a broad brush is wrong. BTW, lay off the Alex Jones stuff.
     
  14. hotballa

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    I was just mocking the OP who obviously is a conspiracy nut. Sadly, there are actually people like my role played character.
     
  15. RocketMan Tex

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    I have a question...

    If we Jews run the world, why the f*ck do I have to work a regular 9-5 job?

    I mean...we run the world, right? So who do I call to get Ron Wood fired from the Rolling Stones? I'll work cheaper than him too...just by a little bit!

    ;) :D
     
  16. ymc

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    No, you don't run the world. But apparently a very small minority knows how to play the game and play it very well. :cool:
     
  17. basso

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    A Trip Down Memory Lane

    The current flap over the Pentagon Inspector General's report on Douglas Feith's Office of Special Plans has embarrassed the Associated Press, the Washington Post and, if he has any shame, the Inspector General. The controversy does have the merit, though, of raising once again the issue of the relationship between Saddam's Iraq and al Qaeda and other terrorists.

    The Inspector General said it was "inappropriate" for Feith's group to question the wisdom of the CIA's dogma that Saddam Hussein, a "secularist," would never cooperate with bin Laden or other Islamic terrorists. There was a time, though, when the likelihood of such collaboration was widely reported and understood. Thus, courtesy of Power Line Video, we are rescuing from the memory hole this ABC News report from 2000.

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    Are you still pushing the cooperative link between the two? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    This news report has old information, that even if some of it hasn't been cleared up to show the opposite of a cooperative and supportive leak, still proves nothing. It is mere speculation of what might have happened.

    But like I say, we have since found evidence that there was no cooperative link between them.

    I can't believe you are still trying to make this claim. basso, this on level as low as anything TJ has done.
     
  19. hotballa

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    which part of Texas are you from? Waco? :D

    In all seriousness though, I feel for the Jewish people to always have to deal with this kind of anti-semitism since the Middle Ages. They've been accused of running things with their money fo rthe last 1,000 years. I think maybe it's time we let that delusion go.
     
  20. ymc

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    My understanding is that my point of view is similar to saying very small minority of IQ > 135 also plays this game very well. Am I also anti IQ>135 people?

    There really is a disproportionate representation of Jews in academia and business. The same thing happens in Asian Americans as well. But then the population of Asian Americans is still small compare to the Jews and as a whole group not as cohesive as Jews. Their history here is also shorter. But I believe in a 100 hundred years, we might see a contention of domination in America between Jews and Asians. That's kinda similar to rise of China relative to the US.

    If point out facts is considered anti-Semitism, then I don't mind this label. But then I gotta admit that the very small minority I mentioned really did a good job of implanting this open-ended idea of anti-Semitism.

    Plus, I actually am not opposing to Jewish domination of American life. That's what they should do for themselves if they have half a brain. Similar to what the big corporation or the military industrial complex lobby really hard to get what they want.
     

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