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Double Jeopardy has been curbed

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Woofer, Nov 21, 2003.

  1. Woofer

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    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/2239357

    Nov. 21, 2003, 12:42AM

    Britain to curb famous legal rule
    By ED JOHNSON
    Associated Press
    LONDON -- The British Parliament on Thursday approved legislation to overturn "double jeopardy" protection for offenses such as murder, rape and armed robbery.

    The centuries-old legal rule prevents suspects being tried twice for a crime and is enshrined in the legal codes of many of Britain's former colonies, including the United States.

    But under the Criminal Justice Bill, introduced by Prime Minister Tony Blair's government, a person acquitted of certain serious offenses will face a second trial if compelling new details, such as DNA evidence, come to light.

    The legislation, hailed by the government as the biggest reform of Britain's criminal justice system in a generation, now only needs royal assent, which is virtually automatic, before it becomes law.

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  2. basso

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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You've got to be kidding.

    Woofer, your Title should have included "in England" somewhere.
     
  4. Woofer

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    I should have added, hey the British beat Ashcroft to it.

    OTOH, I think if they have direct physical evidence, trials for murder should supercede double jeopardy.
     
  5. MadMax

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    the english have stopped speaking english and they're discarding tons of well-founded, well-resolved english law. they're tearing apart jury trials as well.
     
  6. basso

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    if DNA evidence later shows someone to be in fact guilty? where's the justice in allowing someone known to guilty to continue to walk around free?
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Sounds like you're beating Ashcroft to it.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Sweet. So when is the OJ Simpson retrial?
     
  9. MadMax

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    because he already went through a trial...and because we don't convict on DNA evidence, alone. we don't just say, "go to the chemist and he'll tell us if you're guilty." agreed, that evidence can be overwhelming...but given problems with DNA labs here in Houston, you'd still have to put it to a jury. and doing that twice is something our forefathers thought not such a good idea...even if new evidence is discovered later on. the government gets one shot to lock you away for one offense.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    Bad Move. There's a reason it's been a cornerstone of our law for centuries. If it's changed, there is too much room for abuse.
     
  11. MadMax

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    by "our" law, I assume you don't mean American law...right? you saw this is taking place in the UK, right?
     
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    Yes, but our legal systems share many common roots... Blackstone and all that.
     
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    As soon as he moves to England.
     
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    Why would that happen?
     
  15. basso

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    well, our "law" didn't grant full citizenship to blacks 200 years ago, nor rights to women, (nor did it recognize gay marriage) so the law is constantly evolving. in this case, if the technology exists to right a greivious wrong i can't say i see the harm, w/in strict guidelines.
     
  16. MadMax

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    i understand what you're saying...but double jeopardy is a bedrock principle...it's not a reinterpretation of the same words, here...this is literally like taking one of the bill of rights and absolutely crossing it out as no longer applicable. this is truly one of the very foundations of our law.

    5th Amendment:

    ...nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Double Jeopardy keeps folx from just pecking and pecking and pecking

    for instance .. . OJ [since jorje brought him]

    they may say .. u know what . .. we can't get him
    SO LET'S JUST PROSECUTE HIM INTO POVERTY
    Keep bring up cases until he runs out of money
    or cannot afford a good lawyer to thow out the
    ridiculous crap they call evidence

    Rocket River
     
  18. GreenVegan76

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    LOL

    That would make the whole thing worthwhile.
     
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    I don't follow British politics much because, frankly, I can't understand a bloody word they say.

    But why would they implement such a *HUGE* change? Was it to honor Bush's visit?

    BRITS: See?! We can strip rights, too!
    BUSH: Sweet.
     
  20. surrender

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    Damn, I thought that I would get to see less of Alex Trebek. Damn misleading titles.
     

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