By that, I mean he rebounds extremely well, scores very well, averages a bpg/spg, & he plays the SF position. His rebounding & toughness alone would compensate for our soft PFs. I haven't seen any articles that would indicate Chicago is interested in moving him, but with the recent acquisition of Pippen, maybe we should look into it. Chicago has Pippen/Rose/Hassell/Mason jr./Marshall/Robinson to play the 2/3 positions. That's 6 players for 2 positions. I could see them keeping 5, but not 6. Robinson has been in the doghouse with them (they just fined him $50K for not showing up for off-season practice) & they'd probably love to move him. So, what would it take to get him? Here's a trade (you knew this was coming ) that might or might not work. Houston sends Mobley/Taylor/release from the Drew obligation to Chicago. Chicago sends Marshall/Fizer/Robinson to Houston. Cato could be substituted for Taylor, but I'd be reluctant to do that, unless they threw in something better. Rice could also be substituted for Taylor, but that would put us neck deep in Luxury Tax purgatory next year. Chicago gets rid of an oft-injured player in Robinson, reduces the number of players at the 2/3 while acquiring an upgrade at SG. Taylor for Fizer is a wash (similar stats), except for the salary difference ($4.1 million), but they drop Robinson's $6.2 million salary to more than compensate for that. They also gain more flexibility with their #1 draft picks, by being released from the Drew obligation. If they hold out for Cato, then they add some tough defense to the center position, which is what Cartwright loves. Houston gets a starting SF that fits us to a "T". We also get a less expensive PF in Fizer with similar talent to Taylor. I know that most of you are going to scream about the injury prone Robinson & losing Mobley, but hear me out first. Robinson's contract has 2 years left on it, while Taylor's has 3 years left. We knock 1 year off our bad contracts & if Robinson can finally shake the injury bug, we gain a very athletic 2/3 swingman in the deal. As for Mobley, all indications are that JVG is going to be running a slow down offense that pounds the ball into the middle & passes it out to the open man. That makes Mobley expendable in my opinion. He's shown a lack of willingness to change his style of play to adapt to the team in the past. There are several SG's still out there that could be had for the minimum or close to that (Jon Barry, Dion Glover, Raja Bell, Jim Jackson, Dermarr Johnson, Voshon Lenard, & Steve Smith, to name a few). We just need a SG that can spot up & knock down the open shot. Mobley very rarely just shoots from where he catches it. I realize that this deal won't happen, but we should look into acquiring Marshall. He'd give us a very good starting front line of Ming/Marshall/Griffin. Our new lineup could be: C: Ming/Cato/FA? PF: Griffin/Fizer/T-Mo? SF: Marshall/A.Griffin/Nachbar/Rice(IL?) SG: Piatkowski/A.Griffin/Robinson(IL?) PG: Francis/Moochie What do ya'll think.
I brought up D. Marshall's name in May, but there is no sign that Bulls are interested in moving him. He is a bit short for 4, I don't know if it is wise to trade Cat away for a sf now. Taylor is still better than Fizer. So this trade will weaken our positions on 2 and 4, and strengthen our 3.
God, (some of) you people suck. And I mean that with the greatest respect. Have you no patience? Do you honestly think VG would have terrible players on this team?!?! Taylor was a GREAT player before his injury. He could hit the mid-range jumper almost every game. He was a fantastic force for this team. Last year he rarely played. An Achilles' tear takes a lot longer than a year to repair. You have to expect him to be much, much better this year. He is NOT a bad player. Obviously, if he isn't doing well, he will be moved or benched early in the season. And Cato played his ass off last year. He was playing for his job. He was a FANTASTIC complement to Yao. And same goes for Mobley. I can't expect a lot more than last year, but maybe VG will have an affect on him. Remember, HE WAS A SECOND ROUNDER. For a guy who wasn't considered until the 41st pick, he is a great player. Just imagine how hard he had to work just to get into the starting position. Again, patience is necessary!!! And Mooch, well give him a couple months. He played like **** last year, no doubt. His defense was terrible, his dribbling skills put us all in awe. Just expect him to play at a higher level. With all of these absolutely silly threads, I might have to suspend myself from the GARM forum. Do you guys really think Marshall can magically fill all of these needs?!?!?! HELL NO!!!
I'm with Mr. Mooch on this one. Let's fill out the roster with some seasoned vets and see how well the Rox respond to JVG. IMHO, the 8th WC seed is realistic with the pieces we have. Unless there is a Feb trade deadline deal for Rice that's too good to be true, let's wait until next summer to tinker.
where did you work this out from, a creal box??? Steve Francis still can't run the break or make a good decision, MoT still can't rebound, Moochie is still crap, Cato still has no offensive game and this what you pick out, every year Mobley has adjusted and improved his game as per the request of his coach and to just get individually better, i think he will be perfect to do whatever JVG asks of him.
but he's not in the WC. the point that I was trying to make was that the Donny isn't a glut at the 2 or 3 for CHICAGO since they play him mainly at pf, thus one less reason for CHICAGO to want to deal him.
I guess this means the overwhelming opinion is that this isn't a good trade. Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Eddie Robinson has a huge contract that nobody in the league wants to take on. Fizer is a restricted FA next year and we may face another James Posey situation with him. So I have to say no thanks to this trade.
