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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tedmvp, Jan 12, 2002.

  1. tedmvp

    tedmvp New Member

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    rudy needs to play dan get rid of morris
     
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    I don't agree.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Tmo has shown very little offensive skill. Wouldn't Langhi's outside shooting open up the lanes for Francis and Mobley to penetrate?
     
  4. tedmvp

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    lets see what dan can do moriss range is three foot no post up moves
     
  5. Jeff

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    It would if he could actually shoot. That's been his problem all along. He can't hit a shot and his defense is terrible, so why have him on the floor? Morris has shown the ability to defend and rebound but he can't find his shot. Langhi, when he isn't shooting well, isn't contributing.
     
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    When Tmo and Cato are on the floor, thats 2 players the defense doesn't have to worry about. It kinda limits what Francis and Mobley can do.
     
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    Well when Mobley's on the floor, there's 4 players the defense doesn't have to worry about...:D
     
  8. Jeff

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    I don't disagree with that, however, Langhi is the same way AND he can't play defense. The problem all along with him is that he can't hit shots during the game. Maybe he can in practice but his shot just doesn't fall when he's on the floor. If it had, he'd already be seeing Bullard-like minutes because that was the role the envisioned for him. Rudy said as much last year. Unfortunately, Langhi hasn't been able to be anything close to that and since he has no defense, there isn't much you can do with him.

    Notice, however, Morris hasn't gotten many minutes over the past few games either. Neither of them were going to make much of an impact this season but Morris' upside is far greater than Langhi's mainly because he is already way ahead of him defensively and as an athlete.

    Another issue with Langhi is that he never played in control on the floor. When he got the ball and tried to drive, I never got the sense he was in control of his game. He also didn't pass much despite the fact he wasn't making his shots. Morris at least knows to give the ball up and makes smart plays on the offensive end. He's a good passer and plays with maturity. Langhi just doesn't for whatever reason.
     
  9. RocketsPimp

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    Like Jeff said, Langhi has nothing to offer this team. He couldn't hit a shot if his life were on the line, he has absolutely zero defense and is a worse rebounder than Cato. Langhi belongs in the NBDL at best. He is years away from becoming a legit NBA player, if ever.

    At least Morris is a rookie that has shown some skills. His "D" isn't great, but he's still learning. T-Mo has also shown good rebounding skills by pulling down boards and the ability to keep the ball alive by tipping rebounds to his teammates. IMO that trait alone makes him a much better option than Langhi.
     
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    I dont see why everyone's so high on Langhi's shooting. He hasnt make a three in his NBA career.
     
  11. barbourdg

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    Hey Jeff, I have to make a point on Dan.

    Did you see that game, a while back, that Rudy gave Dan major minutes. I was counting the times that Dan was able to touch the ball (not just shoot, touch), when the Rockets were running the offense (another words, no defensive touches), and Dan was able to touch the ball twice in the first half. Out of these two times, he passes the ball into Willis one time, and missed a jumper. When Moochie was back in the game (2nd half), Dan did not touch the ball ONCE!!! not even to pass the ball around the outside. NOTHING!! I questioned then, why Rudy even had Dan in the game for so many minutes, when his teammates would not involve him. I even remember him making a great defensive stop, and ran down the court to take his award from the 3 point line, and Moochie (or somebody) just waive him off and dribbled in circles until he lost the ball.

    Even though Dan's defensive skills are not great, he does not sit around hoping the ball will come to him. He atleast puts 110% into his game, which is pretty difficult when your best friend is a piece of pine. I think Dan in time could become similar to MATT BULLARD. Matt was a big weakness on defensive, but he personally WON SEVERAL GAMES Last season. His 3 point shooting, was the reason the Rockets won several games last season.

    I remember Dan sitting on the 3 point line a few times (like Bullard) and took the shot and drained nothing but net. If he got the minutes to shake off the butterflies he could be a great bench player for us (similar to Bullard).

    I say we trade Dan, Collier, Tier for BULLARD!!! Damn we need him back!!!!
     
  12. BobFinn*

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    Hmmmm...

    Statistic------------------- Langhi------------ Morris
    Games --------------------------8---------------- 23
    Games Started ----------------0----------------- 2
    Minutes ------------------------49-------------- 268
    Minutes Per Game -----------6.1------------- 11.7
    Field Goals Made --------------4---------------- 16
    Missed Field Goals ------------7--------------- 49
    Field Goals Attempted ------11--------------- 65
    Field Goal Percentage -----36.4------------- 24.6
    Free Throws Made ------------2---------------- 3
    Missed Free Throws ----------0---------------- 3
    Free Throws Attempted ------2---------------- 6
    Free Throw Percentage ----100.0----------- 50.0
    Three Pointers Made ---------0----------------- 3
    Three Pointers Attempted ---0---------------- 17
    Three Pointers Percentage -0.0------------- 17.6
    Adjusted Field Goal Percentage- 36.4------- 26.9
    Offensive Rebounds -----------5--------------- 20
    Defensive Rebounds ----------5--------------- 44
    Total Rebounds ---------------10--------------- 64
    Assists ---------------------------1---------------- 18
    Steals ----------------------------2----------------- 6
    Turnovers----------------------- 3---------------- 15
    Blocks ----------------------------1----------------- 7
     
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    Cool stats: seeing that TM played nearly 6X more minutes than Langhi, those stats dont look to bad for Langhi. Then you have to remember that in those 49 minutes Langhi played, he was rarely involved in the offense.

    Its pretty sad, that he was never allowed to attempt some 3's. I think the time I remember him shooting them, was in preseason.
     
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    That is not a totally acurate statement.

    Cato moves to the basket as well as any big man and loves to Dunk. If you ignore him he will have career nights dunking the ball. He has done it in the past. Teams usually don't leave Cato alone for that very reason. All opposing teams need to do is play Cato honestly and not let him catch the ball moving to the basket but to do that you have to have a man on him so you can not just ignore Cato as you suggest.

    One of the many things that TMo has shown the ability to do is drive the ball and pass off. If TMo could just find his shot (comes with confidence) enough to hit 40% everyone on this board would change their stance against him. You shouldn't have to be a basketball guru to see all of the things that TMo does well.
     
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    Believe me, there's a reason this guy is not on the floor. It's not a coincidence.

    This guy doesn't even get garbage minutes, so what does that tell you........:eek:
     

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