Dunleavy coached 3 teams and got fired 3 times. Does it mean something to you? The record itself says something. Go figure.
How many times have other coaches been fired or forced out? Rick Carlisle was fired, but I'd have him as a head coach in a second. JVG may or may not have been forced out in New York. At the very least his job was in jeopardy multiple seasons. How many times has Don Nelson been fired/forced out? B
Yeah, it means your information is false. Dunleavy was fired once (Blazers) and resigned twice (Bucks and Lakers).
hmmmm... no... not really if you're hired at some point in time... eventually you'll get fired or step down. so your hire/fire or quit ratio would be kinda close. i dunno.
Agree with B's point. However Dunleavy is 3 for 3 in not meeting expectations, including a deplorable record and no sign of improving in Milwalkee. That is telling. JVG and Carlise on the contrary have gotten more from less before, and exceeded expectations based on what they had to work with. In short, there are more positive signs from each of there 1 stops than Dunleavy's 3 stops combined.
According to research I did (Houston Chronicle and NBA.com) he was resigned from the Lakers and the Bucks. He was fired from the Blazers.
Resigned or fired, I believe he was no longer wanted in L.A. and Portland and I can't imagine the Bucks wanting to keep him after 4 losing seasons. It's one thing to get fired once or be forced to resign....3x can't be good.
Yes, instead of looking at the local paper, you refer to the "offical word" when it was obvious he was forced out. Dunleavy leaves staggering Bucks By Tom Enlund and D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel staff April 26, 1997 The Mike Dunleavy era for the Milwaukee Bucks came to an end Saturday when the team accepted his resignation as vice president of basketball operations and general manager. Dunleavy's five years in those jobs, and his time as coach in the first four of those years, will be remembered for the once-proud Bucks' inability to make the National Basketball Association playoffs. The period was marked by draft picks and trades that didn't work out, questionable free-agent signings and record-setting losses. The resignation took effect immediately. Dunleavy said he and Sen. Herb Kohl, the Bucks' owner, had reached a buyout agreement on the three remaining years of Dunleavy's $1.5 million yearly contract, but he would not disclose terms. The two were unable to achieve such an agreement last season, when Dunleavy was relieved of his coaching duties and Chris Ford was brought in. The feeling among many in the league was that Kohl had made a huge mistake by not severing all his ties with Dunleavy immediately. Possibly realizing his error, Kohl took quick action after the team's disappointing 33-49 season. "The two parties reached an agreement," said John Steinmiller, the Bucks' vice president of business operations. "It's something good for both sides." Sen. Herb Kohl, the team's owner, said in a televised interview Saturday, "I don't know who might be his successor or how long it might take to hire that successor. The first thing is to get the right person who will get us to where we want to go, and that's the playoffs." Dunleavy departs with a feeling of disappointment that he was not able to help the team return to the playoffs. "That was the goal," he said. "I know the outside pressures after four years of losing, but the first three years we were right on time -- dismantle, win 20 games, win 34. Then last year, we had a setback going to 25 wins. "But there were circumstances that I'll probably never get into that contributed. I felt we'd turned it around this year, but didn't. "I'm appreciative of the Bucks. I wish them the best." Dunleavy would not elaborate on the "circumstances" that he talked about. But the talk among some league personnel last season was that the Bucks had operated under some sort of internal salary cap. Dunleavy is interested in a return to coaching, and there are expected to be a number of coaching vacancies by the end of the playoffs. Dunleavy, who had been a Bucks assistant coach before becoming coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, was hired with fanfare to become the Bucks coach on May 5, 1992, signing a then-unprecedented eight-year deal. When the search for a general manager was unsuccessful, Dunleavy accepted the additional title of vice president of basketball operations and general manager on Sept. 25, 1992. At the time, the Bucks needed an overhaul. Dunleavy's task was to rebuild the team. He posted a 28-54 record in his first season in Milwaukee. The Bucks were 20-62 the next season, which set a new franchise low for victories. The Bucks made strides in Dunleavy's third season as they won 34 games. But they took a major step backward during the 1995-'96 season when they posted a 25-57 record, their second-worst ever. Dunleavy was relieved of coaching duties on April 27, 1996. With a "playoffs or bust" mentality under Ford, the Bucks came up short again this season. While things were crumbling on the court, Dunleavy was not doing too well in the front office, either. He had to trade his first major free-agent signee, Ken Norman, after just one season because he became too disruptive. The Bucks had to pick up most of the remainder of his six-year, $15.8 million deal. The Bucks won the top pick in the NBA draft lottery in 1994. The consensus top pick was Purdue's Glenn Robinson, the national college player of the year, and the Bucks chose him. Robinson held out before signing a 10-year, $68.15 million contract after the season had begun. Robinson posted good numbers in his rookie season and combined with second-year forward Vin Baker to give the Bucks a good scoring tandem, but Dallas' Jason Kidd (chosen No. 2) and Detroit's Grant Hill (No. 3) were named the co-rookies of the year. Dunleavy reportedly overruled his scouting department's recommendation to select the University of Wisconsin's all-time leading scorer, Michael Finley, with the 11th pick in the 1995 draft. Dunleavy elected to pick Gary Trent, and then he sent Trent and a 1996 first-round pick to Portland for its first-round pick, Shawn Respert. Respert wound up spending most of his time with the Bucks on the bench, and this season he was traded to Toronto for Acie Earl, a reserve player. Where might Dunleavy go? Dunleavy said that he did not have a lead on a coaching job. "But it's only the first day," he said. "I've made no bones about wanting to coach. Looking at the situation, this seems like the best time to do it." Said Ford, "We have to continue getting ready for the (June 25) draft. (Director of scouting) Larry Harris is still there, and the coaching staff. . . . "We just have to keep going until a GM is in place."
Yeah...he was fired as Bucks coach...but retained as GM, from which position he resigned. I was pretty sure he'd lost 2 by firing.
Let's see, Rick Adelman, fired from Portland before Dunleavy was. Where is he today? Only one of the top NBA coaches in the league with the Sacramento Kings. So past performance does not always predicate future performance.
Riet and Macbeth: http://www.chron.com/content/archiv...t=&type=&user=houston&sview=1&hview=2&dview=1 PORTLAND, Ore. - Mike Dunleavy was named head coach of the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday, succeeding P.J. Carlesimo, who was fired last week. "The reason I'm here is that I want to win a championship," said Dunleavy , who led the Los Angeles Lakers to the NBA Finals in 1991. Dunleavy 's record is 208-284 in six seasons as an NBA head coach. Two successful seasons at Los Angeles were followed by four losing seasons at Milwaukee, where he also was general manager. Trail Blazers president Bob Whitsitt announced Dunleavy 's appointment at a news conference at the Rose Garden. The decision ended more than a week of speculation that began when the Lakers ousted Portland in the playoffs, knocking Carlesimo's Trail Blazers out of postseason play in the first round for the third straight year. Dunleavy stepped aside as Milwaukee head coach before this seasonand resigned as general manager and vice president of basketball operations on April 26. Dunleavy said he liked the players at Portland, which has the youngest team overall in the league. He said he once met Jermaine O'Neal, the teen-age rookie who came straight from high school to the Blazers last season. "My feeling on the young players basically is this: If you're going to pick them (in the draft), your responsibility is definitely to take them under your wing and teach them," Dunleavy said. http://www.nba.com/bucks/history/00400459.html#17 1995-96: Stars Emerge, But Losses Mount Although talk in the preseason was of a return to the playoffs, the 1995-96 Bucks fell to 25-57, the second-worst season in franchise history. Only in 1993-94 (20-62) did the Bucks win fewer games. The Bucks, led by developing superstars Vin Baker and Glenn Robinson, were considered a team with playoff potential. But the team never jelled. The Bucks fell victim to a rugged early schedule that included the dreaded "Texas Triangle" and won only two of their first eight games, setting the tone for a disappointing year. In late November, Mike Dunleavy shook up the roster with a pair of trades that resulted in the acquisition of Benoit Benjamin and Sherman Douglas. The trades left the Bucks with only five players on their roster from the previous season. Despite the shakeup, the Bucks continued to struggle. Individually, Robinson and Baker continued to develop into one of the league's top frontcourt tandems. Baker, in his third season, was named to the All-Star Game for the second straight time. He was one of the league's leaders in points (21.1 ppg) and rebounding (9.9 rpg). Robinson chipped in 20.2 ppg, meaning the duo supplied more than 43 percent of the team's points, numbers the likes of which hadn't been seen in Milwaukee since 1971-72, when Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bob Dandridge scored 45.7 percent of the Bucks' scoring punch. After the disappointing season, Dunleavy stepped down as head coach, but would remain as the team's Vice President of Basketball Operations/General Manager. Among his offseason moves; a draft-day trade that gave Milwaukee an outside scoring threat in Ray Allen, as well as a future first round pick. Seems all the articles we are posting as conflicting information.
Riet, You are posting an article and hightlighting the areas that critisize his moves as GM. I have never said he was a good GM, nor would he be the GM here.
Alderman also took the Blazer to the finals when they weren't the best team in the WC twice!!!! MD had the most talented team and never got them their once. That said I don't care if MD was fired 10 times, I don't like what he was fired or forced to resign for ( in 2 of those situations anyway). He lost control of the team, and this is a team that is young and hardheaded, the last thing we need is someone who doesn't command their respect. If this were a veteran team I would chose MD because of his ability to run an offense, but its not and we need someone who will come in and kick some A@@ and take names later. MD may very well be a fine coach for a veteran team, but imo he isn't the right guy for a young team like ours, and his track record backs up my and others arguments.
There are very few coaches who don't work hand in hand with their GM's, scouts, etc. when dealing with draft matters. Even if he wasn't the GM, the coach's responsibilities include draft preparation, draft strategy, and draft evaluation. Rudy was an integral part of player evaluation and I can't imagine CD ignoring Dunleavy when personnel decsions have to made.
I do believe he's been to the Finals once with Lakers, and twice with Portland. Also was the Coach of the Year 1999 with Portland.
Seeing as how Rudy and CD will still be doing the scouting and whatnot, I am sure they will have the final say so. I don't think we have to worry much about Dunleavy's personel decisions. Not necessarily. In Portland, Whitsit made all the final calls there. And we know that in LA, West had the absolute final say so over Dunleavy. Isn't Rudy staying on as a consultant and a talent scout? I think all three will have input and I don't see Dunleavy overruling CD or Rudy or Les on final decisions.
