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Does JVG think JB is a 'knucklehead'?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nero, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. Nero

    Nero Member

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    Is that what it is?

    JB probably should be on the floor at least SOME, now that he is supposedly healthy enough to play again.

    But from some of the few comments JVG has made regarding JB over the course of the season, and taking into consideration JB's vaudeville act on opening night, could it be that JVG is just being hardheaded about it, and refusing to play him out of.. dare I say it - spite?

    Just seems to me that Barry should be in the game, at least some, especially with TMac havnig his shooting problems right now. No offense to KB, or Lampe, (and DA's a given not to be activated), but I would at least like to see if JB can contribute some meaningful minutes.

    If he goes back out there, and his leg breaks off again, then fine. But if he goes out there and starts dropping in those perfect sweet 3's, then all's the better.

    If we can unload DA for a future pick, then JB (and Sura) should both be given a chance to help.

    Of course, if DA is packaged somehow with the TA for something better, then all bets are off.

    Just has started looking to me like JVG is treating JB like he is a knucklehead, and wants him to have no part in the team. I hope it's just my imagination. JB may be a clown, but we like him, he is the kind of guy that the people of Houston seem to naturally like and pull for.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I can't remember if it was charlie, john and lance, or marc and rich, but they were saying that jvg didn't feel like barry worked hard enough to get back on the court. I couldn't believe that.
     
  3. Freik

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    From what ive read JVG doesnt trust that hes healthy
    enough to play. I would really hate for him to be cleared, then go out for about a minute and get injured again. With the recent win streak i wouldnt push him into playing, suit him up and if hes completely necessary throw him in, but i wouldnt rush it.
     
  4. GRENDEL

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    Which is what's happened the last couple of time JB came back. I don't think there's a real need to rush him back. In the Chron a few days back, JVG stated that he and Barry meet on a weekly basis so both of them know where they stand, last I heard Barry had only had one real practice with the team.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    I've wondered the same thing about that speech he gave on opening night.

    Sometimes I think Barry tries too hard to be the funny guy. Sometimes when you do this, it can be interpreted as not taking the game seriously. Whether that's the case or not, it is odd that JVG won't let him play.

    I never got into the whole 3 finger sign after every 3 pointer last year. To tell the truth, it actually pissed me off. If you're going to showboat, at least have some game.
     
  6. crums17

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    I was away the first month of the season. What speech did he give on opening night?
     
  7. JayZ750

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    If one thing is clear about JVG, his only motivation is winning. I don't think he does anything out of spite.
     
  8. GRENDEL

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    I agree but a lot of JVG haters will just take this issue as something else they can hang on old baldy....even go as far as saying he's hold a grudge for a joke made on opening nite
     
  9. droxford

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    JB is goofy. He's fun. He's a loudmouth...

    ... but he's not a problem. He deoesn't break town team morale. He doesn't resist the coach.

    So... no, he's not a knucklehead. It's just that JVG is focusing on winning every game right now. JB will need time to get re-acclimated to game-play and JVG doesn't have the luxury to grant that if it means risking a loss.
     
  10. ndnguy85

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    ya it kinda pissed me off to. for all the times they showed their pride, game 7 teached them a lesson.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    He's not saying JB is a knucklehead, he's asking if JVG thinks he's a knucklehead. It's a legitimate question IMO, and I like JVG.

    I mean, how would playing JB for 5 or 6 minutes a game to get his feet wet be risking a loss? I just wonder if there is more to this than any of us know.

    crums17, JB grabbed the PA mic before the opening tipoff and gave a pep talk to the fans. In it, he made a sarcastic remark about him being almost as excited as his coach about the upcoming season. No big deal.
     
  12. Old Man Rock

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    Funny, that is the one thing that I thought there was a general consensus about JVG. If you piss him off he will make you pay. I don't doubt that he wants to win, but his motivational tactics have always been do what I say are you're out of here. That's were I think he fails most as a coach. There is nothing wrong with discipline. But you also need a team that believes in thier coach and is ready to go to war for him as well. JVG inspires fans to shut the TV off.
     
  13. Nolen

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    If Swift can be DNP'd in a game for being late to practice, twice, and then be re-inserted the very next game, both times, back in the rotation exactly where he was... Then no way JB is somehow being punished by Gundy. There must be some other reason.
     
  14. OddsOn

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    No way.....Jeff Van Gundy said in a recent interview that the chemistry was going pretty well right now and he didn't want to mess with it, that he didn't think JB was truly healthy enough to come back just yet and that he felt that at this stage of his career JB needed good players around him to make him great (i.e. Yao, T-Mac, etc.) I suspect JB will be back after the all-star break if we need him.

    And to the contrary, JVG is a pretty damn funny guy when he wants to be. I just don't think he cares much for the media ( and who can blame him...lol) :cool:
     
  15. krosfyah

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    JB got hurt earlier in the season, said he was ready, JVG put him in and then promptly reinjured himself. JVG likes JB's fire and knows he wants to be out there but he wants to be sure JB is ready to go this time.

    Thats it. There isnt a conspiracy.
     
  16. MrButtocks

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    Barry might be activated now that Moochie's gone. Cause we all know he sure as hell isn't going to activate Lampe.
     
  17. richirich

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    JVG could have played Barry the last 2-4 minutes of the Knicks game. But he didn't.
     
  18. krosfyah

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    Again, it is because he didn't want to chance reinjuring JB.

    JB already hurt himself once coming back too early this season. The team is playing well without him so why risk putting him in prematurely? Don't forget, he is 35.

    That being said, he'll be activated tonight since Mooch is gone but I don't know if he'll play.
     
  19. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    JB has remained on the inactive list lately because you cannot trade players that are on the inactive list. Clearly, the Rockets were talking to teams about both Baxter and Moochie so neither of them could be moved to the inactive list. If they don't make Barry active tonight, then I expect they're talking about moving another of our scrubs.
     
  20. m_cable

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    I've gone over this before, but.... Artest was traded while on the inactive list. Bogans was traded while on the inactive list. Nene is on the inactive list and he's in trade rumors every day. The rule is that you can't cut a guy that is injured. Nothing about trading.
     

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