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does anyone think it is wrong to sell wholesale lists on ebay?

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does anyone think it is wrong to sell wholesale lists on ebay?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. robbie380

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    I've recently discovered that you can make some nice money on the side by selling these things. However they are somewhat misleading if you only look at the picture and don't read the description of what you are buying. Like one I have going right now is at $20 for the list. I almost feel like I am ripping the people off, but it clearly states that it is a list and not the item in the picture. So is it their fault for not reading or is it my fault for putting a picture up that makes them think they are buying the picture?
     
  2. drapg

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    Caveat Emptor.

    If it looks to good to be true, it usually is. If the buyer doesn't read, that is his/her fault.
     
  3. jamma34

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    ive seen them before, what exactly is a wholesale list and how does it work?
     
  4. Mulder

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    Basically what you get for a buck or so is either list of wholesalers or a website for wholesale items that you can then buy and sell at a profit. There are some unscrupulous types who emphasize the items that you COULD buy and sell rather than the fact that it is a list or website. People see a Palm Pilot for $5 and they grab it not reading the fact that it is a list of wholesalers that sell Palm rather than the product itself.
     
  5. robbie380

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    jesus now its up to $51 and i started it at $5...here is what my description says......

    is that misleading? or is this one their fault for not reading? and since this one has gone thru the roof i have changed my description and added this in bold red letters at the top "A bid indicates that you have read this entire item description, and are aware of exactly what you are purchasing."
     
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    While I do think it's lame I would have to agree that you have totally covered your ass.

    I lost count how many times I saw "The list" or "This list".

    Power to ya if people are dumb enough to fall for it.
     
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    It's better than selling a giant cheeto...
     
  8. Mulder

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    Buy a Louis Vuitton bag from this list for $120 and sell it for nearly $260 on ebay!!


    Dude I think your covered... have you been getting negative feedback?

    I remember that there is a company that sells electronics and they have this rating system. Most of the stuff was rated 1 star and was priced really cheap. If you bothered to read it though, 1 star meant something like "broken, non-funtioning unit, will not power on."
    That store got mountains of negative feedback from people who just didn't read it, bought it, and then complained that it didn't work. Everytime the company would respond with "buyer did not read description, unit listed as non-functioning."
     
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    Person would have to be pretty dumb to not see they're buying a list!!

    However, IMO you are off-base if your list is lame. Are your claims real?? Is this a list they couldn't easily get elsewhere for free, or are you selling them a google search?:D

    If this is overhype then you're no better than the people who sold envelope stuffing schemes claiming you could make thousands of dollars a week part time. I think some of those hucksters were actually charged.

    PT Barnum would be proud.

    PS -- not trying to be too harsh...just you seem to imply you feel you may be ripping people off -- and you may be right!
     
  10. robbie380

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    well i will make some changes to the description and take out that line.

    anyhow...the list is a pretty extensive list of wholesale dealers not just a few links. once i made some money off of selling these crappy things i was going to look into calling some of the dealers to see what the prices were on the stuff they sell and actually use the list for what i am advertising it for. i know that some of these people who sell stuff on ebay have to find it somewhere really cheap.
     
  11. Mulder

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    oh no robbie don't misunderstand.. the quote I referenced clearly states that this is for a LIST. I don't think it's necessary to remove it.
     
  12. bnb

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    I think maybe this should be the truth in advertising quote you should use :D
     
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    It's misdirection and that's being fair to the buyer. You are saying look at my right hand as I wave it while my left hand reaches into your pocket and takes your money.

    Send them an email after they win decribing exactly what they won. A Piece of paper. Let them agree to it. And then I'd be ok with the transaction. As long as you were clear and direct.

    You are playing a game of misdirection. And even if that's legal, it's still wrong and you know it.
     
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    It's misdirection and that's not being fair to the buyer. That's what I meant to say.
     
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    PSJ -- do you really think it's misdirection??

    He clearly states over and over its a list that will allow you to buy stuff. I was somewhat surprised the poll results were overwhelmingly (when I checked) "YES" Even I voted "NO" and I've been somewhat critical in couple of posts.

    I think his description is deceptive in that he has no experience in making money from the wholesale prices -- and in fact, hasn't even contacted most of the vendors. He has no idea if his claims are true.

    But I don't think its misdirection. I cannot conceive how anyone would expect to receive anything but a piece of paper or email from this auction.
     
  16. robbie380

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    well I have added in big red letters at the top "A bid indicates that you have read this entire item description, and are aware of exactly what you are purchasing." and i will also take out the part about buying and selling the items from the list on ebay since I have not done it yet, but other than that I don't feel like I need to change anything else.
     
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    Yeah. That's what I think. You can't blame the person for not reading the print. It's human nature. And it's been proven over and over again. What robbie is doing is taking advantage of human nature for profit. Yet leaving the customer unsatisfied. For example, Have you even seen the test that asks you to read the the whole exam first, then take the test. 90% of people will not read the instructions. It's human nature. Then at the end it says you didn't have to take the test. Funny. They wasted their time. Then there's the test that asks you to count the letter F in a sentence. 99% of people don't count all the F's because the human brain doesn't recognize the word Of. Believe it or not. It sees OV. So 99% of people get it wrong. It's so simple and nobody can count the F's. What Robbie is doing is taking advantage of human nature.

    There may very well be some people who want that list. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that the majority of people will feel duped and will not read the text. But you cannot blame them for that. It's human nature. That's what is being taken advantage of. Consumer Reports exists for this very reason. We assume that the product is what it claims to be. But's that always the case. We get duped.
     
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    I am far from perfect myself, but I think everyone needs to examine what they are doing every once in a while. If you feel justified in doing what you are doing that is you're right. Especially if its not illegal. But there are so many scams its bugs me. I got duped on that Fake yellow pages ad. The patent ran out on the yellow pages logo so some company stole it. That company makes millions every year now, but they are not the yellow pages. They just appear to be the yellow pages. And it's perfectly legal. But that's a pretty crappy thing to do to people.
     
  19. Falcons Talon

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    If you don't fully understand what you're buying, there is always the option to contact the seller to ask questions. I have contacted ebay sellers on plenty of occasions and have always received fairly prompt replies with accurate answers to my questions. I don't think that you are doing anything wrong. If it's in writing, you're golden. If you don't read the details before entering into an agreement, tough cookies. That being said, I don't always read into the detail of internet registration sites, because most of the time, they are free, but when I spend my hard earned money, I will find out about what I am getting into.
     
  20. Falcons Talon

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    :confused: Please explain.
     

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