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Does anyone actually enjoy rockets basketball?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragon167, Mar 31, 2003.

  1. dragon167

    dragon167 Member

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    I am yao's fan but NOT yao-only fan, at least I feel frustrated after the loss even yao had a good game. I know it might offend some of you guys but I really think that rockets basketball is no fun to watch. Dribbling and dribbling, run to 4 defenders and throw up a brick, ISO and ISO, and defense.....forget about it!!!

    So does any of anyone actually enjoy rockets bastetball? Do i miss the enjoyable part? Can u enlighten me if this is the case?
     
  2. bigballerj

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    I agree!! This is got to be the dumbest collection of talent + coaching in Rockets History. If they had any sort of intelligence they would've abandoned the ISO crap long ago after it was clearly shown that it doesn't work.
     
  3. A-Train

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    This is definitely the most disappointing team since I started watching the Rockets 10 years ago.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Good question. While I get plenty of enjoyment out of watching my favorite team play, I also get an incredible amount of frustration. These guys are dumb as bricks and they aren't showing any improvement. Watching Stevie dribble around on the perimeter like as if there were a 40 second shot clock and an impenetrable zone defense is pretty infuriating. Steve, this isn't college! I just keep thinking that this team needs a real point guard, not a guy who has no creativity in his game outside of juking and driving. Does Steve ever watch other teams to learn what ther PG's do? And Yao is kind of painful to watch as well. He looks slower than ever and isn't showing much energy. Only 2 rebounds.
     
  5. Yun

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    I agree. I aqm a Yao fan but I want the team to win as a team!!!
    Team basketball is the most beautiful to watch.
    I like the way the King plays as a team. I like Argentina team when they played as world because they have a great team work.

    I do not like ISO play including from Yao. However, he was force to do it on this team.
    If the rocket move ball around more they will have more win.

    Basketball is a TEAM sport and should be played as such.
     
  6. BubbaMac

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    I am watching the Rockets less and less these days. I can only watch the nationally televised games and used to get pumped for each game that was on tv and and would be glued to my tv set.

    However, the Rockets are just boring to watch. The team lacks chemistry and the offense is just basically 1 on 5 with no ball movement. I would much rather watch the Mavs, Kings or Lakers play than the Rockets. During the last Rockets-Spurs game on TNT, I was watching re-runs of Sienfeld instead of the Rockets game.
     
  7. Yun

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    On the defensive end, Do you think they should try zone defense?
    Yao may be more effective as a core of the zone?
     
  8. bigballerj

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    Not many people have pointed this out and it may be cause for alarm.

    Yao is ALOT more selfish now than he was at the beginning of the season. Everyone esle's selfishness has rubbed off on him. Can't really blame him because I'd probably do the same thing after watching the 3 stooges backcourt dribble out the shot clock game after game.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I enjoy it when I win my bets like tonight.

    I had the over at 184, and although the Rockets lost, it was tempered by me winning.

    :)

    Gambling fever...catch it.

    DD
     
  10. BubbaMac

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    Posey is also selfish now. Everyone is selfish as one is a product of one's environment. I don't think there is a team in the NBA that is less fun to watch than the Rockets.
     
  11. CLFranchise

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    Seriously, all of our coaches totally f*cked up Yao. At the beginning of the season, it seemed like the coaches didnt know what to do with him, so they pretty much put him in and let him do what he could when he touched the ball. This would lead to quick decisions and great passing, or a great spin move drive.

    Now, you see him on one side, backing it in, backing it in, with the rest of the team not moving and just watching. He isnt being used to his full potential.
     
  12. BmwM3

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    Yao only had only 11 shots today. On a day you're feeling it you have to take way more shots than that. I don't see him being selfish.
     
  13. wizkid83

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    I watched through the championship season with Hakeem banging inside, throwing it back out, same old same old predictable offense. But guess what? It was then that I started watching basketball and got hooked ever since. Winning cures all ails.

    I enjoy the Rockets games no matter what, really i don't care how they play as long as they win. This while still not as good as the elites, is a winning ball club. This team hs the ability to beat any team, which is why I follow them, they just don't do it consistently. However I disagree with the notion that they don't improve, I think they have improved since the all star break as far as team ball is concerned.

    But I think what's been overlooked is that this team has to change its offensive philosphy 3 times during the course of the season. First they were a strong back court team when Yao was just a complimentarry player. Then when Yao proved him self, we became a guard AND center oriented team. And now that Larry Smith took over, we became, well I don't know what we became. Honestly, how many teams have to change their philosphies on the offense 3 times in one season and still remain very successful??? Any one any one????
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Yep, Posey used to run all the time and create havoc. Yao was used to looking for moving and slashing teammates. The problem is that when either of them passes it they probably won't get it back. They get the ball with less than 15 seconds left on the clock, and if they pass it out, there will be dribble diarrhea to waste the rest of the time.

    I don't understand why the Rockets can't simply pass the ball around a few times. If Yao doesn't have good position, let him pass out and reset, then give him back the ball. Does Steve look for any pass other than the obvious ones or the alley- oop?

    I think it's about time to see what we can get for Steve and take this team away from a guard- oriented offense. He has shown an inability to learn basic basketball fundementalls and that it makes it a lot more crucial to trade him so that Yao can develop fully.
     
  15. Newgirl

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    It's not about individual players, it's about the style of play, the system, the team basketball concept. Kings basketball is fun to watch even when individual players play bad.

    I am a Rockets fan because I am Rockets fan and I will continue to be one. But you have to be frank that our style of basketball is difficult to watch even when we win not to mention when we lose. There are 2 parts of watching sports. You want to win but as the same time you want to be entertained. That's why I would complain about the team even when we win.

    But some so-called "loyal" fans branded us as haters. Very clever they're aren't they? :rolleyes:
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    The problem is they have never been very successful under any of those offensive schemes. Same old story any way you slice it.
     
  17. axmpo

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    I always do that. I always bet on my least favorite team to win. I don't care to pay some cash for my team to win (or put it another way, pay for my least favorite team to lose). And I get monetary compensation for my team's losses.:)

    It's called hedging.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    At first I thought it was the system. But I don't think our guards run any semblance of an offense. I don't think Rudy is a genius at setting up an offense, but I don't think Steve and Cuttino have a clue on how to run even Rudy's simple schemes. Rudy requires a lot of iso play, but he also requires basic basketball sense, like making passes to the open man, cutting to the basket, spacing, etc. Back when we had Hakeem and a bunch of role players the system worked great.

    About the people who call us haters- some fans are just in denial. They'll agree with us eventually. :)
     
  19. Yun

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    I agree. I have seen this more as a coaching problem and game plan.
    They seem not to make decision on any of the style and develop it to the full potential.
     
  20. xiki

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    What system? There is no system. Rolling out the ball and going from there is not a system, O or D.
     

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