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Do you Support Increased Funding for Mental Health Treatment?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Dec 15, 2012.

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Do you Support Increased Funding for Mental Health Treatment?

  1. Yes and we should raise taxes to pay for it.

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  2. Yes but we shouldn't raise taxes. Specify how it should be paid for.

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    16.4%
  3. No we shouldn't increase funding for mental health treatment.

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  4. Not sure.

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  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

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    I posted this question in the Hangout thread but I think it is better here.

    Many have brought up the need to focus more on mental health identification and treatment, often in opposition to increased gun control. I agree we need more of that. My question to all of those focusing on the need for mental health treatment and identification is would you support health insurance reform that mandated mental health parity and increased funding for mental health treatment?

    In a related question would you support increasing taxes to pay for it?
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I gave great health insurance but the coverage for mental health is atrocious. That needs to change. I think a lot of people don't seek help because of stigma and because they just can't afford it.
     
  3. Raven

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    From 1st grade until graduation, every student should have a mandatory weekly meeting with a school consular, preferably twice weekly. Think of how many social problems would improve if that happened.
     
  4. Nook

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    Yes I support increased funding for mental health. However I think events like what happened earlier this week are more a reflection of our culture than mental health issues or gun control.

    We live in a culture where we tell our individual children they are special and better than other just because... and in the real world that is not true. So we have children that become young adults that are disenchanted and anti social and justified in doing anything they want with shallow but over blown egos.. Then we say they are sick, because it is easier.
     
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  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Out of curiosity, what is atrocious about it? I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield and it covers it at 0% co-pay after I reach my healthcare deductible for the year. There is no limit to number of visits.
     
  6. Svpernaut

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    Mental Health treatment should include the education of society as a whole. As someone who has dealt heavily with mental illness issues in my family for decades I know first hand just how clueless the average American is about it.

    Just see how people react to many homeless people, and how most don't know or understand PTSD.
     
  7. Baba Booey

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    Take 0.1% of the defense budget and pay for it.

    And while we're at it, can we do away with the 'not guilty by reason of insanity' nonsense and replace it with 'guilty but insane?'
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Mine are covered 50% for the first six visits, I pay the full rate after that.
     
  9. dback816

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    Don't be ridiculous, how do you expect us to police the world with a lower defense budget?
     
  10. da_juice

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    Yes, 0.1% of the defense budget ($63,700,000) should be devoted to better detection of mental health problems, and a single-payer system would make mental health care more accessible.
     
  11. Deckard

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    It's a disease. We should fund research and require health coverage comparable to that for treating any illness, in my opinion. Even if we have to use tax money to do so, this is the kind of thing I would like my tax dollars to go towards, but the main thing to do is require private sector insurance companies (our system here) to cover it and give it equality with other illnesses. Federal dollars should go heavily towards research.
     
  12. glynch

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    No. This is America. We should just encourage folks to exercise their personal responsibility and not get mentally ill just to get handouts from the state.

    The winners in society have the freedom to give some charity to those who are mentally ill if they choose--such as perhaps immediate family or even others, but the winners should have no guilt if they choose to buy more high end luxuries instead.
     
  13. Classic

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    Meanwhile, in unrelated news, Pentagon has no problem spending $3.8 bil on some shiny new F-35's. The DoD is making me mentally ill. Gimme some butter.

     
  14. JuanValdez

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    I don't like the discrete set-aside implied by the question. Mental health care should be covered by insurance like other health care, and we as a society should make sure everyone is covered on health care.
     
  15. YallMean

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    Based on my limited knowledge in this area, I think the insurance coverage under the Federal law wrt mental health treatment is very minimal. States from states vary. For example, California is one of better states in terms of requiring insurance to cover mental health treatment. Some other states take a more pro-insurance approach to keep the cost lower and the insurer employ people in those states.
    School funding and other measures for spcial educations are also needed. School districts from school districts are one a wide spectrum in terms of providing special ED.
    I just hope there isn't going to be a trend of sticking any more stigama to those have mental conditions like Autism.
    All in all, this is a very complicated area, I think, not as simple as increasing funding or research effort.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    I remember my school counselor and well . . .. he was pretty fricking useless
    [I think he xeroxed our letters of recommendation and just changed the names]

    This level of intense therapy is too much IMO

    I worry we will look for issues that are not there
    create new issues in the process.
    Become a group of people that cannot move without their therapist's say so.

    I think increased funding should be provided
    I think it should be put into research and therapy but I don't think this
    is yet ANOTHER burden/responsibility to be put on the school system

    Would you be interest in RANDOM PSYCHE Exams . . like drug tests?
    Would we be interested in criminalizing people's refusing to take their Meds?

    This is larger than . .throwing money at it
    the logistics of it need to be very carefully thought out

    Rocket River
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    It should but unfortunately stuff in our society isn't usually paid for unless there is a discrete source of funding for it.
     

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