We may have talked about this before... but I'm really interested in the notion of getting 'offended'. We all seem like fairly opinionated people. What then, would offend you? If someone merely posed a different belief than you, you would take it in stride, correct? If someone questioned your personal beliefs... would you merely explain your beliefs or would you act 'offended'? If you're wrong about something and later recognize that you were wrong... were you 'offended' or did someone merely teach you something? ------------------ (===)
I think condensension, insults, and people simply spouting PURE untruths about something would offend me ESP REPEAT OFFENSES If you explain yourself and they insist on doing it anyway that is offensive that is when it gets . . . less friendly Rocket River ------------------
Nothing offends me. A bold statement, but absolutely true. Certain things disturb me, but nothing offends me. ------------------ "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another which states that this has already happened." Douglas Adams
Oh god that is hilarious! DoD, you truly are a great human being. I certainly never get offendid on this board..it is far too impersonal and inconsequential. I get offended every now and then in real life, but not too much. I get irritated, angry, mad, ambivalent, amused far before I get offended. I guess it is because I realize that I am smarter than the rest of the world so -- no matter what someone says or who that person is -- nothing bothers me because I am better. This is only half true. I also do not take myself too seriously. ------------------ Whitey will pay.
Exactly rimbaud... since I feel better than everyone else, what is there to be offended by? For example, other people might be offended by Dr of Dunk's attempt at humor. I found it 'ahhhhhha' not very funny. But then again, I know that DOD is only 4'3" and weighs a 180lbs. Since I feel superior to DOD, there is no threat. DOD, looking over your list I had to look up 'offend' again. I guess I do get 'offended'... earlier I thought of it only in a manner of personal affronts (coarse language, body odor, etc.). I do wish that there were a better term for some of your examples though. The notion that "animal cruelty offends me" places too much emphasis on the subjective, IMO. Animal cruelty is wrong, period. From contextual experience, I generally have grown to believe that most people term 'offend' as a unique personal experience, regardless of the objective facts in the matter.
Just thought I'd put this over here instead of in the other thread. Just my thoughts concerning the lack of tolerance TOWARDS Christians. The scripture passage--(2 Corinthians 2:15,16) says... (15)For we (believers in Christ) are to God the aroma of christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing. (16) To the one (unsaved) we are the smell of death; to the other, the fragrance of life. This passage candidly explains why non-believers are "intolerant" of christians but will rarely bash a hindu, buddhist, or jewish person (similar to the earlier post by traj). Christianity is offensive if you don't believe because to deny Christ is to choose eternity away from him. Christians are "offensive" because they are convicting to non-believers. Deep in our hearts there is something that pulls us towards Christ (Rev 3:20, Romans 1:20, 2:4b) but many of us push that away (including myself for most of my life). I pray that some of us will re-evaluate what life is all about and realize that there is more to life than work, sports, etc. God loves us no matter our past or present. ------------------ [This message has been edited by mobes (edited April 03, 2001).]
huh? You did post this in the other thread AND it has nothing to do with this thread. Thank you for playing...please try again. ------------------ Whitey will pay.
...it worked ------------------ "So you say you want some intelligent responses? I say give me something intelligent to respond to." -- Dimwits beware, B-Ball freak tells it like it is. Sing it bro!
Are you sure 2 threads is enough to post the same thing? ------------------ Peter: Lawrence what would you do if you had a million dollars? Lawrence: I'd tell you what I'd do man...2 chicks at the same time man. Peter: That's it? If you had a million dollars you'd do 2 chicks at the same time? Lawrence: Damn straight, I always wanted to do that man.
People with inferiority complexes that manifest in misled beliefs of superiority, like Achebe above, offend me. No, but seriously... I consider anything that irritates me subjectively or objectively offensive. If my beliefs are challenged, I don't necessarily get mad, but I can be offended. You know what really offends me? Sunshine on a rainy day. That's a sick feeling. ------------------ "So you say you want some intelligent responses? I say give me something intelligent to respond to." -- Dimwits beware, B-Ball freak tells it like it is. Sing it bro!
Anyone who thinks Wilt was better than Russell offends me ------------------ "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."- (Aldous Huxley)
Offended just doesn't seem to be the right word for me. Now that Achebe makes me think about it, I will say that "Offended" is to "defending your morality" what "Defensive" is to "defending your self." At least, that's the best shot I can do at summing up my feelings towards Achebe's question. Since I don't really think in terms of "self" and "morality", I don't really think Offended or Defensive fits me. I do get protective of other's right to individuality and beliefs, but what is the right word for protective instincts towards the belief's of others to the point of your own belief's collapsing down to a nurturing ex nihilo!?
Nihil dicit [L., he says nothing] (Law), a declinature by the defendant to plead or answer. ------------------ "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."- (Aldous Huxley)
"ex hihilo" is literally "out of nothing" first used to mean without God, as in creation ex hihilo. Now it applies to being without any standard foundation or paradigm. Art and Architecture likes to use it.
A person who is unwilling to tell you what he or she believes but freely attacks someone else's beliefs really offends me. Those individuals have nothing invested in the arguement! This position is too safe,IMO, and it is often meant to display a sort of superiority to the other in the arguement. The teacher explaining to the over-zealous student that he or she needs to study more. On a smaller scale, but along the same lines, I am offended by individuals who will not make a declarative statement. These individuals fear that they will be an easy a target and must make their statement abstract so that no one can prove them wrong. ------------------ I am an invisible man.
Kbm...you don't know what you are talking about. The 4 out 1 Flex offense can flatten zones and make the 24 High very effective. LOL! Now I know why you objected to me using basketball lingo.
LOL! On a side note, I really enjoyed reading your post in the OBSERVATION AND QUESTION thread. In the SAY_JACK thread, I gave you your props! That idiot took your idea for a moniker. ------------------ I am an invisible man.
Devil's advocates are annoying as hell... no offense, evil devil's advocate triad. But kbm, if your arguments are invalid or unsound, don't you feel better if you learn from said mistakes (if the evil devil's advocates were correct for a change, lol.)? ------------------ (===)