Do you believe in Morey's ability to judge talent?

Not anymore.

Would you trade Landry + Hill + first rounder + chance to swap first rounders for Kevin Martin?

It's almost comical when you think of how badly Morey the Moron ruined our franchise.

 

I think that you're failing to see the big picture. First, Martin is incredibly injury prone, or would you try to have us believe that wrist injuries to a pure shooter who coincidentally has been on the decline don't matter? It's not that Landry isn't impossible to replace, but why mess with the chemistry for a injury-prone player? Are you one of those that's really banking on Yao bringing a championship? That's a crapshoot to say the least. You can't ask everyone to just look at things your way while just ignoring everyone else's concerns, as it just doesn't work that way. Can Morey judge talent? Sure, he's proven it. Is Morey perfect? No one is. For now all that we can do is predict what's going to happen, but you just as the rest of us, have your own take on this. Understandably then, so do we.

 

Let's see if the Kings really do get all of that from the Knicks. My hunch is that the Knicks never got close to offering that much; Walsh probably talked it over with Dolan and never got the approval to give away all of that. I would imagine that the final proposal likely would have had lottery protection on all the picks, which devalues the package quite a bit.

 

So you wanted an unproven PF in a position we were formerly stacked in (with Landry) for a first round pick that doesn't really guarantee anything? We would also have to wait for the first rounder to pan out, and hope that a big name Fa signs here (which isn't a given at all by the way).

He isn't a moron; if anything your the one lacking common sense.

 

??? The talks stalled because of protection. If the Knicks had agreed to the pick swap and non-protected draft pick then we would have taken it. The irony is we still have Kenny Thomas's expiring contract left. The Knicks just care about getting rid of Jeffries' deal, flipping Thomas for Jeffries could net us Hill and maybe a protected pick in the future. What would you say if we end up with Hill, a pick and Martin for Landry and Tmac?

 

that's actually not the case. The pick was for taking Jeffries's contract. And Walsh seems to changed his mind of dealing Hill.

Taking Hill + future 1st rounder +Jeffries's contract means no hope for contending in the near future and start rebuild after next year.

Taking Kmart means they are pushing for something big next year, with the addition of another MLE player and keep both Lowry/Scola.

 

we're probably in a win-now mode. Yao isnt getting any younger folks.

 

True. I just don't understand why so many fans here cannot see it. Why do they want to wait one more year?!

 

Am I lacking common sense or are you an impatient little baby? A team paying Yao big money is NEVER winning a title. We will be paying Yao big money next season. So enjoy the 50-55 win 5th seed performance and getting knocked out in the first or second round, because we just threw away the future to get it.

At around the time those picks panned out (along with this year's) our young core would have been peaking. Add their affordable contracts to some cheap rookie deals and there would have been plenty of cap space to bring in some great players to an already solid team.

Now we will get to watch Yao and Kmart decline and never win anything, after which our team will suck. If prime Yao and T-mac couldn't do it, peg-leg Yao and Captain Hook K-mart certainly aren't going to do it. Great move filling out the team with two crippled "stars" instead of young, cheap, talented players.

 

Classic post, man. I love it. Now, where are all them Chinese dudes to come in and tell us we can make fun of T-Mac but not Yao?

 

Sergio Rodriguez is the dark horse in this deal. He might have secretly been the player Morey wanted the most.

 

No, but the question is more like

would you trade Landry+TWO of the following for Kevin Martin:

1) Jordon Hill
2) Right to swap 2011 pick (PROTECTED)
3) PROTECTED 2012 pick

fyi:

 

I just don't think Scola can pick up the slack that Landry put out on the floor night in and night out.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=qFM4C1gwxZE&v=YcqJ1sBLfU8

 

Either way it doesn't really matter. The imbalance is so huge that giving up one of those assets doesn't matter. Hill wasn't worth much anyway. In two years I promise you that we will consider Kevin Martin a "bad" contract.

 

So let me get this straight:

1) Morey snags a little-known second rounder out of Purdue

2) That player proceeds to have a monster rookie year -- easily turning into one of the biggest steals in the draft.

3) That player continues to improve each season yet never establishing himself as a clear-cut starter. All the same, easily building up his value as that player continues to improve each season

4) Recognizing a chance to 'sell high', Morey flips that little-known second rounder for an All-Star caliber talent and better player in Kevin Martin.

AND ROUGHLY 25% OF YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO QUESTION HIS ABILITY TO JUDGE TALENT?!

 

I really don't think people appreciate how good of a scorer a healthy kevin martin is. I am just as worried as any other fan about him getting injured but if hes on the court the guy can flat out score. Go compare his career shooting percentages to Ray Allen's and you will see a lot of similarities. Compare his shooting percentages to Tmac's and you will see that they are better across the board. We don't really have to worry all that much about his lack of defense with Ariza or Battier guarding the best two or three on the other team. If Martin can keep himself healthy he is a better fit with Yao than Tmac ever was IMO.

 

No matter how I sees it. A 6th man + 2 unused player for a starter + backup PG + 2 fillers is as good as it gets.

Now with the excess on the wing position, hopefully there will be another trade coming up.