DNC official (and Dean supporter) resorts to racist insults

If, as a hispanic, that's how he feels I don't find that racist. If someone of Irish heritage said that Bono was a discredit to Irishmen and was not being true to what's good for Irishmen, there would be no controversy.

 

i'm a little bothered by the whole, "you're not being a true (insert racial status here)." as if there's one way to be African-American...or one way to be Hispanic-American....or one way to be Irish-American.

 

I don't think it was an offensive thing to say. I mean, it's not like a Republican said it or anything...

 

No, you mean a "backer" of a republican. Lord knows how we liberals pounce on everything that *any single supporter* of a Republican candidate says in public. Please, people. If you're salivating to club a primary candidate, at least stick to quotations from the candidate, or his running mate, if and when he has one. Or, actually... you can post pictures of candidate children if they are drunk and/or hot.

 

Here's a much more important issue to discuss :

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71055

Or how about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

Or the new immigrant policy?

Or the "no child left behind" act?

Why talk about what a MINOR official said in an email which had no real significance ? Do you have nothing of substance left to say on any really important issues??

Talk about how Howard Dean said he would have supported the Biden , Lugar ammendment which would have sent us to war in Iraq anyway and how he (while criticizing others) has flip flopped on this issue. There's a lot to criticize Gov. Dean for, but this issue is just pathetic.

This is coming from a hispanic.

 

I agree... we should all be Americans and be able to express our views no matter how misguided they migth be. I'm also a little bothered when folks start to appropriate symbols and language from a cause or a struggle and then use those same symbols and language to undermine said cause or struggle.

 

You should've heard the stuff coming out of the College Republicans when Victor Morales came to campus in 1996.

This pales (and it's already pale) in comparison.

 

I agree in general, however, when it comes to being Mexican in America, it is still a group that is 90+ percent Democrat. I didn't really know this until a few years back, but members of different Latino communities - Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South & Central American are fiercely independent of one another and, politically, stay extremely close to each other.

For the vast majority of Mexican-Americans, choosing to side with Republicans on political issues is hugely out of character. Many Mexican-Americans use the term "house Mexican" like African-Americans use the term "Uncle Tom" when it comes to political decisions like this one.

IMO, that sort of dressing down is even more prevalent in Latino communities than in black communities, however, because many of them tie political ideology to heritage and culture. For them, choosing a political cause or ideology opposed to the one their community supports is like betraying their heritage.

I'm not saying it is ok. I'm just saying that it is the reality in the Latino community and comments like these are to be expected as a result.

 

All you guys who said this is no big deal, just curious, but where were you on the Trent Lott kerfluffle? i think the key point here is that a liberal democrat said this. If a minor administration official had said it it would be fron page news in the NYTimes, and you can bet W would've fired the guy. it's the new double standard. it's ok to be racially insensitive if you're a democrat, but god forbid you should be a minority republican...

 

Of course this guy isn't even a minority administration official, much less the Senate Majority Leader.

And Trent Lott wasn't being racist against his own race.

 

Jeff, you have not represented the Latino vote accurately. I read recently where George Bush received 35% of the Latino vote in Texas in the last election. In 2000, Orlando Sanchez (Republican) won every Latino-majority precinct in Houston. Many Latinos side with the Republicans consistently on issues like tax relief, small business policies, and church-related issues. The Latino vote has been actively courted in recent years by the Republicans and this courtship has met with success.

 

LMFAO! I wasn't aware you could be racist towards your own race. Is it racist for a black person to call someone an "Uncle Tom?" This is the same thing, how about we get back to discussing the issues?

 

In other words, if you're a minority and you're not a liberal, you are not being true to your race.

 

If a minor administration official had said it it would be fron page news in the NYTimes, and you can bet W would've fired the guy.

You mean like Bush fired the guy who said the war on terror was a war on Islam? Oh wait...

 

You know, as a hispanic, I'm not sure what bothers me more: uncle tom's like Marin and Linda Chavez, or mock sympathy from Trader_Georgie-Porgie.

Thank you, big texx and basso, for bringing this race traitor Marin to my attention. I am going to have her ass voted off of the Isla, pronto.

 

As a latino, I too appreciate mock sympathy. Please, give me your shoulders to lean on as these incidents are hard on me.

 

I thought this was no big deal, and I thought what Trent Lott said was racist.

I see a huge difference. What Trent Lott basically said was that the country would be better under the segregationist philosophy championed by Strom Thurmond. That is racist. I don't remember the exact qoute but it did praise Strom Thurmond's beliefs and how we'd better off etc. What action should have been taken against Trent Lott, if any, I don't know. I really don't think that's even the important part. Also as others have pointed out, that was what Trent Lott said himself, and not what some low level worker for Lott said.

I do agree with Mad Max that it's wrong to think that any particular nationality should be any particular way. But on the other hand I also understand if you believe you are being true to your heritage and acting in the best interest of your particular nationality and someone else is siding with those you feel is contrary to your interests you might say they are betraying your race.

We all know that there is more than one right way to be an American, yet if any American said they like the policies of Saddam, we might feel that they were being un-American. I

 

Let me bottom line this. Is what he said some huge travesty? No...not really.

If the author of the piece were a Republican, would the media have hopped on it like a sorority chick on nickel beer night? You bet. Not only that, but we would have had scores of threads calling for his head, prefereably on a pole paraded through downtown in effigy.

It isn't about what was said. It is about the different treatment it is given depending upon the political leanings of the person saying it.