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Distribution of Minutes at the 1, 2, and 3?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DCkid, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. DCkid

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    So what does everyone think the distribution of minutes will be next season at the perimeter positions? I'm talking about the average minutes in games where Lowry, Brooks, Martin, Lee, Budinger, and Battier are healthy. Their overall averages would be distorted due to injuries.

    My best guess:

    Brooks - 30 Minutes. He played 35 last year which was inflated due to the Lowry injuries. I think it will also go down a little, because Lowry and Brooks are unlikely to play together as much as last season.

    Martin - 35 Minutes. He should get the most minutes of anyone on the team IMHO. He's played over 35 minutes per game the past 4 seasons.

    Lowry - 20 Minutes. Eighteen backing up Brooks. The other two minutes playing with Brooks.

    Battier - 22 Minutes. 9 Minutes at the start of each half...4 Minutes at the end of the 4th quarter.

    Budinger - 22 Minutes. One of the reason's for getting rid of Ariza was to increase his minutes.

    Lee - 15 Minutes. 11 Minutes backing up Martin. Four minutes occasionally playing the three.
     
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  2. Stevierebel

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    You are 2 minutes over in your total for minutes at three positions.

    And I don't know if there will be set rotation for the whole game. Usually Rick has some type of rotation for the first three quarters and the fourth quarter is for the guys he thinks are playing the best that night.

    But I can see the minutes averaging close to what you predict though.
     
  3. DCkid

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    Dah! Thanks. Fixed.
     
  4. Aruba77

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    All I have to say is that dividing up these minutes between these guys is a good problem to have. I really like how deep our team is at the 1,2, and 3 positions.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    128 minutes available

    DD
     
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  6. Yetti

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    Why not just be logical????????????

    .....Point Guards: Brooks , Lowry
    Shooting Guards: Martin, Lee and Taylor
    ..Small Forwards: Budinger, Battier
    ..Power Forwards: Scola, Hill, Patterson anoach is careful and doesn't over play players he will have astrong team ford Jefferies
    ............Centers: Yao Ming, Miller and Hayes

    Lets not worry about minutes, Adelman has that responsibility. :p
     
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    I don't like playing the minutes game because it should be whoever is hot plays the majority of the game and/or also depending on matchups. On avg I see...

    Brooks 30 minutes
    Martin 35 minutes
    Lowry 18 minutes
    Lee 20 minutes between the 2 and 3
    Battier 25-30 minutes
    Bud 18-20 minutes
     
  8. smoothie

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    shane was an iron man before the injuries last season. that guy is going to play a lot of minutes... 22? are u budingers agent? i see it more like this:

    shane 36 - budinger 12
    martin 36 - lee 12
    brooks 30 - lowry 18


    shane is so important to this team he deserves full starters minutes when healthy. the same can be said about martin and his offense. lee and bud will be fighting each other for playing time (offense vs defense).
     
  9. IamKhan

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    we will have big problems to find players to play the garbage time. Even our 12th, 13th players will be too good
     
  10. jevon3012

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    I say less minutes for Martin, he's shown to be injury prone so I would rather not risk it. Also, some minutes for Lee at 3 and some minutes for Brooks at 2. Overall, less minutes for the older/injury prone guys like Martin and Battier and more minutes for younger guys like Lee, Budinger.
     
  11. RedRedemption

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    With the line-up as is. I wouldn't be so surprised if Budinger does get a minutes upgrade this season... but 24 per game is a bit much, eh?
     
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    I need some of that cool aid bro, he's never healthy and is a step slow.
     
  13. larsv8

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    My problem with this type of thread is you are boxing our players.

    If the other team is foul prone, I want Lowry and Martin in there playing more minutes.

    If Lowry is out of control like he gets sometimes, I want Brooks playing 35+.

    If the other team is strong offensively at both wing positions, ala Charlotte, OKC, then I want the Lee/Battier combo to get more minutes.

    Its all about matchups and situations.
     
  14. RedRedemption

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    I'll agree he's declining, but he hasn't been injured that much...
    Given the Rockets' history... if you can play at least half the season you are considered an ironman.
     
  15. DCkid

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    Not meaning to do that as I'm just looking for the average, not a quota or anything.

    As for Bud only playing 12 minutes, that makes no sense considering one of the reasons we shipped Ariza out was to give him more experience. Rockets clearly have higher hopes in him than 12 minutes a game.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    You know what, screw it.....Roll the ball out, and let the best man win.

    DD
     
  17. Easy

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    The problem with minutes distribution is that the traditional mpg stats does not count missed games. (I think that's stupid, BTW. Why do you want to list a guy who played 18 minutes for one game because of teammate's injury and sat on the bench all the rest a 18 mpg player?) The minutes listed should account for possible injuries.

    So I am going to make too list. The first is "true minutes" distribution, putting missed games in consideration. For example, if I thought Martin would play 36 minutes a game when healthy but would miss 12 games, then I would list his PT as 31 minutes (36 * 70 / 82 = 30.7). The second list is rotation distribution, which is the "ideal" rotation when everyone is healthy.

    So here it is, assuming the roster is as it is now (big assumption), and that Yao and Martin will miss more than a few games.


    True Minutes Distribution
    Brooks (23)/ Lowry (24)/ 3rd string PG (1)
    Martin (22)/ Lee (18)/ Brooks (6)/ Taylor (2)
    Battier (24)/ Budinger (20)/ Martin (2)/ Jeffries (2)
    Scola (30)/ Hill (10)/ Patterson (6)/ Hayes (2)
    Yao (20)/ Miller (20)/ Hill (6)/ Scola (2)

    Regular Rotation
    Brooks (26)/ Lowry (22)
    Martin (32)/ Lee (8)/ Brooks (8)
    Battier (26)/ Budinger (22)
    Scola (36)/ Hill (10)/ Patterson (2)
    Yao (28)/ Miller (20)
     
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  18. DCkid

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    I'm not sure about 28 minutes for Yao, but everything else looks about right.
     
  19. Easy

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    It is hard to predict Yao's minutes because of the uncertainty of his foot condition. And they did say that they were going to limit his minutes. So I just take a guess that it's somewhere below 30.

    Do you think 28 too high or too low?
     
  20. DCkid

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    Too high. I was thinking closer to 24.

    Four minutes does seem insignificant, but I'd be worried he's more susceptible to stress injuries those last few extra minutes when his muscles are at their weakest.
     

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