All year long, I have not had to give out one disciplinary referal. Problems are dealt with me and the student in a one on one discussion outside the classroom and any friction we have towards each other is easily resolved. I did have this one kid earlier in the year that would not settle down and he eventually transferred out of my class. I always give the kids an "out" in a confrontation. I've found that the kids usually take it. Well, now I have this one kid that transferred in mid semester form another class. He was a obnoxious to begin with, but then he started becoming disrespectful. I have a standing rule in my class that if you are tardy, you won't get a restroom pass, and if you are "chatting" in the halls before the bell, you don't get a pass either. He would show up late, or talk in the halls and after walking into class, ask for a pass to the restroom. he didn't agree with the policy and continuously questioned it, until one day he lost ALL pass priviledges for my class. It went downhill form there. After sending him out and discussing things with him time and time again, with no help coming from the parent, it was time to show this kid who the Alpha dog is. He walked in one day with a cut off sleeveless shirt...clearly a dress code violation, but one that I can easily overlook, seeing as it's the last class of the day. I questioned him on it and he got pissed and walked oput of class. Instant referal. I sent him with it (giving him some rope to hang himself) and sure enough, he didn't show up at the office...skipping...The next day, he showed up to my class and had an instant referal back to the office and he received On Campus suspension. Today, he walked back in and stated that he would be in the counselors office and walked out...not showing me any pass...another referal for skipping...I gave him 5 minutes and walked to the counselors office to discover him hanging out in the hall...he said he was talking to the discipline clerk, and asked if the referal was for him. I told him yes and he laughed about it. I immediately tracked down the discipline clerk and asked him if he was talking to the kid, and he said no. As I walked out of the office to go back to class, the clerk got the kid and the kid was obviosly now upset that the referal was going to stick...I couldn't help but chuckle, much more subtle than his laugh, as I walked right passed him.
Falcons, I respect you so much because you can deal with those kids. If some little sh*t was very disrespectful to me, i'd give him a slap across his face. I think that now days we let kids get away with way too much. When I was young, if I did something wrong, I got smacked by my parents. Now its "abuse", the only abuse going on is by the kids of this system thats turning them into undisciplined brats. Grr! Good Luck!
I blame his parents. Either of my sons would be in severe trouble if he acted like that. Good for you Falcon's. DD
I've had a problem with two kids including this one all this year. I am very fair with the kids, and i always let them them know that if they are wanting attention (being disruptive) they will "get" my undivided attention, for as long as it takes. They usually ask how long what takes, which I reply as long as it takes them to get the message. I am very understanding in kids and their extenuating circumstances. I really take each kid on an individual basis...after all, they are really young adults. As far as smacking the kids around, I've never wanted to smack one ever...I only spank my boys, and then it comes with an explanation. These kids that get to that point only understand one thing...it's usually slapping around their pride...
Not getting a restroom pass can get you fired or suspended yourself....and I will tell you why, Any child who needs to use the restroom and the teacher denys him or her, you are putting yourself at risk for termination. My cousin was denied a restroom pass and he peed his pants and the teacher was let go. You do not hold a child from using the bathroom regardless of any rules.
The rule is this...if it's an emergency, walk out of class and there will be a referal waiting for you when you get back. If you really need to go, you can explain it to the administrator in charge. This situation only happens with the obnoxious kids...and they usually just want out of class anyway.
I could never be a teacher without the government allowing corporal punishment. I know that I never cared about getting detention, sent to the office, whatever. It was just no big deal. If I had known I was going to catch a beating for being late or never doing homework, I probably would straightened up and flown right. Instead, I broke the schools detention record.
"Talking out of turn, that's a paddling. Staring out the window, that's a paddling. Looking at my sandals, that's a paddling. Paddling the school canoe, you bet that's a paddling."
I would straight up talk **** to the kids. Instead of disrespecting you, should taunt them and make them look bad around their peers. Break this guy down that way because I think he has some image problem or something.
You mean something like..."Ha ha, that's funny. I'm sorry you had to lose so much sleep last night thinking that one up." He didn't take too kindly to that. How about this...when he got moved to a new seat, I made it into a production... "OK, everybody stand up and gather your books, we are being asigned a new seating chart because some people can't behave like mature young adults. We'll have to rearrange all the seats for the children in here." While everyone was standing and waiting, I moved his seat to the back by me and everyone else retained their original seats. After I sat everyone down, they all laughed at him.
FT, Feel free to not answer this question...but it is one that I have always wondered about. Have you ever been...uhh..."propositioned" by young girls looking to get a little extra credit? I never heard about it happening when I was in high school, and I have always been curious if it happens much at all.
FT, I'm not a teacher, and I admire the paitience of today's teachers, but I would advise you not to get in a pissing match with a knucklehead teenager. The teacher always looks bad in the end. Just keep sending him to the dicipline clerk. He'll learn one day. If it takes sitting in prison, he'll be saying "I should have never kept trying to piss that teacher off in High School".
I remember one of my 6th grade classes had an overly nice, rather effeminate male teacher. One of the popular kids acted up and he sent him in the hall. Over half the class just walked-out into the hall also. I was pissed. Somewhat at the teacher for losing control, but mostly at the students who walked out. They were taking advantage, hitting a nice person in their weak spot. I sat there with some others and fumed quietly, but afterwards was committed that if it ever recurred, I was going to give the students who walked-out some hell.
I have never been propositioned but I know that some students have definitely shown "interest". I have never reciprocated the interest, because: 1. I find it morally reprehensible... 2...hmmm...there are many more reasons, but #1 is all that matters really.
it's not a pissing contest...I can take it as much as I can give it...when it gets to that point. I never lose my temper. That would show the kiddos what buttons to push. I simply am prepared to enforce every single rule the next time they show up. Kids are smart...they get the message...
we are talking about teenagers here. I know when I was in high school a restroom pass was simply a ten minute grace period to roam around the halls. it is definitely up to the teacher who gets a pass or not. now, with younger children , it is tougher. Falcon, I work with K-5th at an after school program and boy are some of them brats. they say the most cruel things to each other and then they mouth off to the staff. when we tell their parents, the kids hide behind them smirking, then the mom blows it off and says"not my so and so...." it is one of the hardest parts of the job, disrespectful little sh!ts.
What grade is this? As long as they are past 1st grade, just bend them little boogers over a knee. You gotta be Paddlin' Peggy on them kids. I would respect any teacher that would spank any of those annoying kids.
