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Dipshit theatre: Red Governors reject masking orders

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  1. Invisible Fan

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    Maybe we really can't afford universal healthcare until we bend the curve for idiots and sociopathic ideologues.

    Red state governors reject Biden on mask orders


    President-elect Joe Biden says he'll personally call red state governors and persuade them to impose mask mandates to slow down the coronavirus pandemic. Their early response: Don’t waste your time.

    Almost all of the 16 Republican governors who oppose statewide mask mandates are ready to reject Biden’s plea, they told POLITICO or declared in public statements — even as they impose new restrictions on businesses and limit the size of public gatherings to keep their health systems from getting swamped.

    South Dakota’s Kristi Noem, Oklahoma’s Kevin Stitt and Nebraska’s Pete Ricketts, whose states are engulfed by new cases, say mask wearing should remain a personal choice, not a legal obligation — despite recommendations from health officials and updated guidance from the Centers for Disease Control stressing that masks protect the wearer, not just people nearby, from infection.

    “Governor Noem has provided her people with the full scope of the science, facts, and data regarding the virus, and then she has trusted them to exercise their personal responsibility to make the best decisions for themselves and their loved-ones,” Noem spokesperson Ian Fury wrote in an email. “She will not be changing that approach.”

    The politicization of mask-wearing shows how difficult it will be for Biden to build consensus around even basic public health strategies after he’s sworn in.

    Though President Donald Trump is on his way out, he’s poised to hold strong influence over GOP officials and voters who’ve largely backed his efforts to downplay the pandemic.

    While some of the same governors expressed frustration earlier in the pandemic about the Trump administration’s lack of support on testing and protective gear, most side with Trump on his aversion to mask mandates. They’ve argued that neither Washington nor state capitals should dictate policies like face coverings, saying they are both onerous and unenforceable. And they’re digging in, even with the virus putting 65,000 people in hospitals and infecting more than 1.2 million people since Nov. 1.

    “If President-elect Biden is indeed confirmed to be the next president, and he approaches me about a mask mandate, I would not be going along with a mask mandate,” Ricketts said during a press briefing on Tuesday.

    “As far as a mandate, I’ve been very clear I don’t think this it’s the right thing to do,” Stitt, who was infected with the coronavirus earlier this year, said at a briefing on Tuesday. “This is a personal responsibility."

    Several of the Republican holdouts, including Ricketts, have required face coverings for employees and patrons of certain businesses while others, like Stitt, have instead allowed their largest cities to decide on mask orders.

    Other Republican governors, like Eric Holcomb in Indiana and Kay Ivey in Alabama have had mandates for months, while Utah Gov. Gary Herbert imposed a statewide order on Sunday night when it became clear this month that his state's hospitals were overwhelmed.

    Asked about the possibility of a mask mandate, a spokesperson for Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee told POLITICO that “nothing’s off the table.” Counties can implement their own orders and so far nearly two dozen, representing two-thirds of the state population have opted to do so. The state reported a record number of new hospitalizations and deaths this week.

    “We need to be nimble in our decision-making, but for the time-being, he’s confident the local-based approach is the most effective,” Gillum Ferguson, Lee’s spokesperson, wrote in an email.

    Some federal health experts, like White House coronavirus task force coordinator Deborah Birx, have for months urged Americans to wear masks to help slow the virus’ spread and recommended stronger government mandates on face coverings.

    The appeals have intensified as November's nationwide case counts shattered previous records, averaging more than 100,000 new infections a day.

    Biden plans to implement a science-driven pandemic strategy as soon as he’s sworn in, and has said that if governors aren’t receptive to his arguments, he will take the crusade to the local level by calling mayors and county leaders and urging them to enact mask orders.

    He may have little choice with some Republican governors refusing to even acknowledge his election victory, and with the GOP state leaders unified around the belief that mandates don't increase compliance.

    Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds announced that customers and employees must wear masks at certain businesses, such as salons and tattoo parlors, but she rejected a statewide mandate, saying the decision comes down to individual responsibility.

    Asked this week how he’ll be able to work with governors like Reynolds, Ricketts or Noem, Biden said simply: “They will.”

    Though he’s blocked from starting to work with federal agencies on the transition, Biden used this week to reiterate that cloth masks are the single most important tool the country has to suppress the virus before a vaccine can be distributed.

    "A mask is not a political statement — but it is a good way to start pulling the country together...It's to give something back to all of us: a normal life,” he said during a Monday press conference announcing his coronavirus task force, which is filled with a slate of veteran public health experts.​
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    u can’t fix stupid.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    I will say again Kristi Noem is the worst. When even ND is imposing a mask mandate she doesn’t even as SD hospitals are getting overwhelmed.

    As bad that is what’s worse is her and her states irresponsibility is making it harder for neighboring states to fight it. Meanwhile she’s advertised that SD won’t shut down inviting people to come visit and then bring it back to our states
     
  4. glynch

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    I see the national advisor President-elect Joe Biden is saying that they may want to have a national mask mandate. It will be interesting to see if conservative governors refused to accept this mandate. Then we can see what the conservative Republican Supreme Court will do that presidential directive.
     
  5. Zboy

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    How stupid do you have to be to refuse to wear masks during a pandemic??

    We have too many uneducated and uninformed dumb****s in this country.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    It's time to isolate those states with travel advisories and travel restrictions, even cut federal funding to those states if necessary. Put them last in line to get ppe and vaccines. They shouldn't be allowed to wreck other states with their irresponsible behavior.
     
  7. Xerobull

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    WellBye.gif

    Enjoy losing your reelection bids.
     
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  8. rocketsjudoka

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    It's sad that we even need to talk about mask mandates. We shouldn't need to the government to tell us to wear masks.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    She should be liable at least in civil courts for damages to hundreds or thousands of families impacted.
     
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    It might actually come to that if some of those states remain unreasonable.
     
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    Mask-wearing has been politicized so much.

    I get arguments against enforcing legal requirements for masks. That is at least debatable.

    But actually discouraging the use of masks or attacking businesses for requiring them makes absolutely no sense. That’s indefensible.
     
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    And it still blows my mind!

    Maybe the dumbest thing EVER!

    Seriously, don’t these nitwits want to live?
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Biden doesn't have the authority to have a mask mandate. I'm not sure why you would think the SC would rule in favor. This is why its stupid to think Trump will declare himself dictator or send in the military to enforce anything or any of these other ignorant fantasies.

    I expect Biden to do more rational and practical measures, like pressure mayors and big businesses to enforce mask mandates. I see Biden being a practical president instead of grandstanding over bullshit.

    Yes, it bothers me to see the average American being selfish and self centered. However I understand this virus is not sneaking around my bushes hoping to jump me the moment I open my door. I can self quarantine and take measures if I go out in public. We don't NEED the government to protect ourselves from this virus at this point. This is on the American people.
     
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    Unfortunately the American people have been an abject failure on this. As I said we shouldn’t need the government to tell us to wear mask but at the same time we shouldn’t need the government to tell us a lot of things like don’t drink and drive yet people still do.
     
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    Are you so sure.

    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10530
     
  16. Reeko

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    shrug

    I stopped caring about stupidity like this a long time ago

    if u want to be dumb, do u...whatever happens, happens...as for everyone else, all u can do is try to protect yourself as best u can

    there is no stopping the idiots

    I feel sorry for those who these idiots will affect, but as for the idiots themselves, I have zero sympathy

    if u end up in the hospital, end up medically bankrupt, or end up passing away, I will shed no tears for u...at the funeral, u could say that at least that person passed away because they were doing what they love to do best which is be ignorant and engage in fckery
     
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    ...that's one way for these freaks to "secede"...
    ...see how many of them actually like being "sovereign citizens"...;)
     
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    Dumb mother ****ers.
     
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    Honestly, this is why The Rona wouldn't have worked out much better if someone other than Trump had been President. The whole thing would have been "Jade Helm"-ed to hell and back.

    Trump just uses the yahoos for his own purposes. Without him there is still a huge army of yahoos spouting insanity. Maybe it wouldn't have been so organized, but it still would have been there.
     
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