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Derrick Williams and Luke Ridnour for Anderson Varejao??

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SkyrimOwnsAll, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    http://sports.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981518277

    NBA Trade Rumors: Minnesota-Cleveland Deal Going Down?


    New NBA trade rumors have the Minnesota Timberwolves and Cleveland Cavaliers possibly pulling off a deal. The current chatter suggests that the Timberwolves could send Derrick Williams and Luke Ridnour to the Cavaliers as part of the deal. In exchange, the Timberwolves would acquire Anderson Varejao, someone who could give the team a very nice low post presence off the bench.


    A year ago, this would not have seemed like enough to pry Williams away. He came into the league as a prized pick of the 2011 NBA Draft out of Arizona, but has simply not fulfilled on his promise of becoming a great player. That doesn't mean he won't eventually get to that level though, so maybe the Timberwolves are giving up on him a bit too early.

    As for Varejao, he can play forward and center, so he could help out any team trying to contend for the playoffs. If things stayed the same, he would likely come off the bench for the Timberwolves, giving the team some great rebounding with the second unit. This is definitely an intriguing trade for both sides, but it seems like the Cavaliers would be coming away with the long-term upside and another top pick from that draft.

    What do you think of these new NBA trade rumors? Would a Derrick Williams trade to the Cleveland Cavaliers be exactly what he needs to step up his game?
     
  2. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    If Williams is honestly that cheap, we should shoot for him. Why don't we sent an assortment of power forwards to appease them?
     
  3. A_3PO

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    T-Wolves are definitely going for broke. Varejao's contract may be a little pricey but he would definitely make them better. I know many here dislike him (me too) but the guy is an effective basketball player.

    But IMO, they need to improve scoring from the guard position more than anything else. Alexey Shved is promising but he won't do anything for them next season.
     
  4. Fyreball

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    This would effectively take them out of the Dwight running (the Cavs that is). I think it's a good deal for both teams honestly. Varejao will give the T-Wolves another rebounding and defensive presence off the bench, and the Cavs will have yet another young piece that they can cultivate along with Irving, Waiters, and Thompson. The T-Wolves are doing some interesting things this off-season. KHAAAAN!!!
     
  5. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    I have honestly never noticed Varejao's post game. I assumed he was always sprawled out on the court.
     
  6. J.R.

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    What? Anderson Varejao was being traded for Andrew Bynum I thought?! :eek:

    Not that I believe this report either. Sports Gather/Gather Sports? What kind of source is that? Looks like bleacherreport, probably worse.
     
  7. RedDynasty

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    Uhhh...seriously? This increases their chances of making a trade happen. They have another young piece...
     
  8. emjohn

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    It's telling how disappointed the Wolves are in him that they're actively trying to sell the #2 overall pick just one abbreviated season in.

    Williams was highly inconsistent, putting up 27-10 one night and 4 points off 1-7 shooting the next. Really ugly April for him overall, shooting 34% from the field.

    Still, you'd think they would want to see how he does with a full camp and preseason before giving up on him. Maybe Adelman is just that excited to start Chase.
     
  9. DonatasFanboy

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    i'd say he's underpaid, but that's assuming health of course.

    it's just clear he's no 3. and he can't play with Love unless Love plays 5, which is not ideal.
    if this happens, Khan is clearly going all-in on the playoffs for the next few years. IMO, stupid. Williams will be a nice player. He was awesome every time he was on the floor with Rubio.
     
  10. couple of d's

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    Always thought Williams was over-rated. 2011 was a very weak draft, other than Irving.
     
  11. Fyreball

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    Would they not need Varejao's contract to the make the numbers work? I honestly haven't paid much attention to the Cavs end of the trade since I never really believe it was viable. I just don't think they're gonna give up the likes of Thompson and Waiters for Dwight. Derrick Williams is a very raw piece, and the fact that he's even being mentioned in a trade for Anderson Varejao shows how much his value has dropped IMO. I could be way off here though.....wouldn't be the first time. :)
     
  12. Nook

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    Adelman has done lost his mind...
     
  13. DonatasFanboy

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    Thompson is more 'raw' than Williams in terms of skills.

    the idea was trading for Bynum (with Dwight going to the Lakers), not Dwight straight up. Thompson (or Williams) + Waiters seems fair, as long as Bynum stays committed to resign.

    re it working, the trade doesn't hurt their flexibility at all. Many ways to make it happen. It's not like Varejao was a great piece for a rebuilding team like the Magic. Williams would make much more sense.
     
  14. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I seriously think the Cavs would have to include a future first in that deal. Probably top 5 protected at most. Cavs shouldn't want any part of Varejao's contract. Deal doesn't make sense as is.
     
  15. DonatasFanboy

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    re this part: i think it would be ideal for Williams. As long as he gets to play at 4 next to Irving. It was painfully obvious last year that Williams needs an elite point guard next to him. He's just a different player next to a great playmaker.

    If Cleveland does pull it off, and somehow end up with Kyrie-Williams-Bynum lineup, I think they'll be contenders very soon.
     
  16. DonatasFanboy

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    if he's healthy, you have a top 10 center at 9 mil a year. it's a great contract. but health is obviously the gamble here.
     
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    If Williams not being able to play the 3 is the main reason why Minnesota wants to ship him, then why would the Cavs want him when they already have Thompson who plays the 4? I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of a Williams and Thompson starting frontcourt, but to make this deal I would have to think the cavs believe they can play them both together and in doing so that they can play Williams at the 3.
     
  18. DonatasFanboy

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    well it's a huge win in terms of assets, potentially. and who knows, they might end up turning one of them into Bynum.

    together they don't make sense long term, indeed. if they do pull this off, i imagine Williams ends up a starter and Thompson eventually a trade bait.
     
  19. conquistador#11

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    Breaking news: the fail attempt by Cleveland to land bynum means that Brooklyn is back as frontrunner to get Dwight.
    Regards,
    Bucher, Amico, Broussard, and all the espn hacks.


    *if vareflopo wasn't so pricey, this would be a good move for the fuhrer.
     
  20. DonatasFanboy

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    who knows, maybe they'd even give Williams some minutes at 5.
    It's far from ideal, but they did go small with Jamison at 5 a lot, and Williams is probably the closest thing to Jamison among NBA's young guys.
     

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