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Dems Attack as Bush's Trustworthiness Slips

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jul 21, 2003.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    Yes, it's just in Wisconsin(?), but at least the Dems are starting to grow a backbone. Of more interest is the poll at the bottom of the article.
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    Democrats to start ad campaign on Bush's truthfulness; GOP claims it's misleading
    WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
    Sunday, July 20, 2003
    ©2003 Associated Press

    URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/07/20/national1456EDT0501.DTL


    (07-20) 11:56 PDT CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) --

    Democrats said Sunday they will launch a new television ad in Wisconsin accusing President Bush of misleading Americans on the threat from Iraq.

    Republicans warned broadcasters not to air the ad, scheduled to start Monday, calling it "deliberately false and misleading."

    The Democratic National Committee has been raising money through an e-mail campaign that started July 10 to help pay for an ad that sharply questions President Bush's veracity on Iraq's weapons.

    The ad says: "In his State of the Union address, George W. Bush told us of an imminent threat. ... America took him at his word."

    The video shows Bush saying, "Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

    The ad continues: "But now we find out it wasn't true.

    "A year earlier, that claim was proven false. The CIA knew it. The State Department knew it. The White House knew it.

    "But he told us anyway."

    Republicans claim the ad improperly quotes Bush because his entire statement was: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

    Democratic spokesman Tony Welch said: "With the British in there, the president's information is still false and misleading. It is exactly what the president said."

    Some Republicans have argued Bush's statement was technically accurate because it attributed the findings about uranium to the British.

    "You can say whatever you want in a fund-raiser," Republican spokesman Jim Dyke said, "but it steps over the line when you knowingly mislead people in your advertising."

    Welch said the ad would be aired in Madison, Wis., starting Monday for about a week and the amount spent would be almost $20,000. The ad would be paid for, at least partially, by the Democrats' e-mail campaign, he said.

    Efforts to get comment from TV stations in Madison were not successful Sunday.

    The ad squabble comes at a time when public trust in the president has been eroding, according to results released Sunday from a CNN-Time poll.

    The poll found that 47 percent view Bush as a leader they can trust, while 51 percent said they have doubts and reservations. That's down from 56 percent who saw him as a leader they could trust in late March, with 41 percent having doubts.

    The poll of 1,004 people taken Wednesday and Thursday had an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
     
  2. No Worries

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    "You can say whatever you want in a fund-raiser," Republican spokesman Jim Dyke said, "but it steps over the line when you knowingly mislead people in your advertising."

    New rule: No lying in politics.
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Oh, I'm glad they are clarrifying this.

    Because it clearly does not step over any line when you knowingly mislead people the world over in getting your war on.
     
  4. MadMax

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    "getting your war on" is easily my new favorite phrase.

    "girl, it's time to get my war on!"
     
  5. Rockets10

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    the ad is not really meant for a widespread audience at this point, and is intended as a fundraising tool for hardcore democrats, but it will be interesting to see whether the dnc tries to expand it beyond the market of madison in the future. the real exposure that it is getting right now is through its dnc party base. it emailed the ad around to about 1 million party members to raise money for the party. if it becomes a big ad in major markets it will be interesting to see how the populace reacts.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    MM, maybe you know this, but just in case: that's not mine. Here's where I found it.
     
  7. MadMax

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    i didn't realize that...you should have kept me in the dark on that one! i already think you're funny, but that one was a gem. i'm just going to pretend you made it up from this point forward.

    :D

    "Where's the President? I thought he was gonna come out with us tonight."

    "Nah...you know that guy...he's too busy getting his war on."

    Man...this just never ends! :)
     
  8. glynch

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    The Democrats are finally starting to string Bush's statments together to show the (let's be delicate) inconsistencies.

    Click for the slide show from the DNC re Bush's inconsitencies..

    DNC
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This just in....politicians....are liars.

    YAWN.

    DD
     
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  10. RocketMan Tex

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    Regardless of persuasion or political party.

    And, that would be LIARS. I have no idea what a "LIER" is, yawnboy!;)
     
  11. giddyup

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    That's known as a Spelling Loophole...
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Spelling is not my strong suit....that is what spell check is for.....I have a business to run, and spelling is not part of the kriteria.

    :)


    On topic......I guess people forget that the dems voted to go to war with Iraq too......

    DD
     
  13. Doc Popeye

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    right. because they were lied to.
     
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    The thread title would be more accurate if it read "Bush's trustworthiness slips as the democrats mount attack."
     
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    While our troops are fighting for their lives, the Democrats are busy undermining our military's credibility through misleading attack ads.

    The fact that the DNC has cut out half of Bush's statement to change the message shows the disgusting depth of their mendacity.

    The British continue to stand by their intelligence that Iraq was seeking uranium in Africa, just as Bush stated in his speech.
     
  17. giddyup

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    Are you saying that no Democrats had access to that intel?
     
  18. No Worries

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    Let me get this straight. You are accusing the Dems of manipulating the facts to serve their broader political goals. That is rich. I wonder where they got that idea from?

    What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
     
  19. johnheath

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    I understand that you have no moral compass from your previous posts.

    The fact remains, Bush's statements that British intelligence believes that Iraq was attempting to procure uranium in Africa is true. The President has been forthright is his statements about the overthrow of Saddam, and any unintentional errors have been corrected.

    The Left in this country is using this issue falsely, or they would not parse Bush's statements. More of our troops will die because of this ploy, as a false message that Bush is weakened by this controversy is being sent abroad.

    I won't call you unpatriotic, because I know that you bozos think you are doing what is right, so I will just call you stupid and misguided. Your actions though, are unpatriotic because the consequences hurt this country and are helping to facilitate attacks on our troops.

    Some of you people are too stupid to protect yourselves, that is clear. No Worries, have a BAD day- you make me sick.
     
  20. No Worries

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    So as long as BUsh is "truthful" in his deception, you are down with that?
     

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