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Democrats' Hurricane anti-Bush petition also seeks political contributions

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  1. Svpernaut

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    Democrats' anti-Bush petition also seeks political contributions

    By DEVLIN BARRETT
    Associated Press Writer
    September 8, 2005, 4:13 PM EDT

    WASHINGTON -- A new Democratic effort to whip up indignation about the Bush administration's handling of Hurricane Katrina also tried to raise money for Democratic candidates.

    Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat and the head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, issued an appeal Thursday urging people to sign an online petition to fire the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency over his handling of the Katrina response.

    After an inquiry from the Associated Press, the DSCC quickly pulled down the page and said they would donate to charity any money raised by the anti-FEMA petition.

    When recipients clicked on a link to the petition, the top center of the screen _ above the call to "Fire the FEMA director" _ had asked for a donation to the DSCC.

    Other DSCC Web pages have the same appeal for contributions, but several do not.

    Since Katrina, Democrats have charged Republicans badly botched the response, and some have called for the firing of FEMA chief Michael Brown.

    In recent days, Republicans hit back by accusing Democrats of trying to use the human tragedy for political gain. The letter, the GOP said Thursday, was proof.

    "It's a disgrace to exploit Hurricane Katrina to raise political funds," said Brian Nick, spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

    "They should halt this activity because it's way over the line," he said.

    DSCC spokesman Phil Singer said: "While the content of the letter is totally valid, it should have never been linked to a Web site that asks people to contribute to political campaigns. We regret it, have removed the letter from our site and will donate any contributions raised as a result of this petition to the Red Cross."

    The letter is the latest sign that more than a week after Hurricane Katrina struck, the political fight over what went wrong in the response continues to grow.

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has called for an independent commission to probe government failures before and after Katrina, while House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi called Bush "oblivious, in denial, dangerous" in his approach to relief efforts.

    Rep. Thomas Reynolds, head of the House Republicans' fund-raising efforts, described Democratic criticism as "reprehensible," saying "this is a tragedy, not an opportunity."

    The administration and Republican leaders in Congress are scrambling to launch a number of initiatives to help hurricane refugees and victims, including a new $51 billion aid package.

    During the 2004 presidential campaign, some Democrats attacked President Bush for using an image of Sept. 11 devastation in a re-election campaign ad, accusing him of exploiting the tragedy. At the time, Schumer did not join in the criticism.

    On the Net:
    Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee: http://www.dscc.org
    National Republican Senatorial Committee: http://www.nrsc.org


    http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local...,3588467,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

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    Why are most democrats and left-wing "voicemen" so bent on making this tragedy into a politcal plea for change? The VAST majority of Americans feel that Bush is NOT to blame, and that if there is blame it is on city and state officials.

    Are Democrat leaders and voicemen (see Michael Moore & Howard Dean) that out of touch with America? I think they are, and it shows. What do the democrats here think of what is happening in the blame game?
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    Now this is truly disgusting.
     
  3. langal

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    That's pretty pathetic.

    The Democrats better watch out here. No doubt that they want to make Bush look bad and gain political points, but if they are too shameless in this regard, it will backfire. I suppose some politicos just can't help themselves.
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    I know, they might just try to make the 16 national prayer day for political gain too.
     
  5. Dreamshake

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    If they are out of touch based on this poll. HOW freaking out of touch are Republicans in regards to Bushs, what is it now, 36 percent job approval rating? Doesnt it make him the most hated president of all time? Just a guess. Lets not talk about out of touch when you have Barbie making idiotic "they are better off now" comments.

    And really, is this any worse then the Armed services recruiting in the Astrodome?


    Reality<-------------------------------------------------------republicans.
     
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  6. Dreamshake

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    ooops browser acting up.
     
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    double post oops
     
  8. Major

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    This is where I hate politicians the most. Democrats need to shut up for a bit and let things settle down. Then when the first-response stuff is done, criticize all you want. But connecting fundraising to Katrina? ugh.
     
  9. wnes

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    Fair game.
     
  10. wesnesked

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    Well, yes it is apples and oranges...the rumors of the whole astrodome recruitment thing have never been confirmed and even if they were, I didn't realize the US Armed Forces are connected to a particular political party. From what I recall they protect all americans.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    The Democrats are absolutely pathetic, and have been for some time.

    It's truly telling that despite the hijacking of the Republican party by the Neoconservatives and the fundamentalist right, there are still more appealing characters on the Republican side than the Democratic one. I can name three or four Republican figures that I have a favorable view of, but I would honestly be hardpressed to do the same if you ask me about the Dems.

    Two pathetic parties making a mock of our political system, giving us little to no choice as to whom we elect.

    If there was ever a time ripe for major third party to be ushered in, it's now. However, I see little/no possibility of that, since the alternatives are even more extreme!
     
  12. Nolen

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    This is totally lame. Dem leaders shouldn't use this tragedy for political gain. Bush should have done more, and sooner, but he's not single-handedly responsible for this.
     
  13. Svpernaut

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    I'd like to welcome you to a reality... The Armed services recruiters work for the Department of the Defense, not President Bush. So it is his fault that military recruiters see thousands of unemployed people and say "wow, this could boost numbers?" It is their careers they are worrying about and nothing else. As far as Barbara Bush's comments, if you hadn't heard most of the people hurt by the flooding in New Orleans were POOR and right now they have new clothes, three squares a day plus snacks. I grew up in poor neighborhoods and I was poor for a few years as a child with a single mother struggling to make ends meet. A good number of them ARE better of then they ever were. The shacks they lived in will be rebuilt as nice homes and they will receive financial assistance that they never dreamed possible to get themselves back on their feet. Her statements were not all off-based... and if you think hers are bad feel free to look up what Howard Dean and Michael Moore have said since then.

    How out of touch are Republicans? Oh, I dunno... feel free to check the majority in both houses of Congress and the White House, and until Democrats can prove otherwise I'll continue to know that Replublicans are doing a better job of being in tune with the American people as a whole. Honestly, with Howard Dean leading the party it can't get any better for you guys.
     
  14. Sishir Chang

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    I would give Republicans a lot more credit for their outrage if they hadn't found it perfectly acceptable to use 9/11 in political ads including explicitly being directed to campaign on it in the 2002 elections.
     
  15. Uprising

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    Sure is.
     
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    I hate to say it but the Dems really need a guy like Karl Rove. They are acting like r****ds, messing up their best opportunities and lacking clear direction.
     
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    The difference is night and day. First off, they didn't "politicize" 9/11 by bashing anyone, they simply showed the President's response to the actions of that terrible day... it was Bush's finest hour, and if you as an American didn't get chills that day when you saw him on the rubble, bullhorn in hand then I feel sorry for you, that was the epitome of leadership. You can't compare them capturing that moment to what is covered in the article above; to do so is laughable.

    I, for one am dissapointed that the liberals, democrats, left wingers or those who bash Bush on here everyday haven't really chimed in on this issue... they've ignored it like the plague. Meanwhile they will rant and rave on and on about military recruiters visiting known unemployed Americans. It's like those African American leaders who won't say straight out that looting for anything other then food and water was wrong, they simply tip toe around the tough issues not wanting to piss in anyone's Cheerios. You see your fellow democrats doing these deplorable political acts you choose not to condemn them for fear of pissing your fellow liberals off.
     
  18. Manny Ramirez

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    You took the words right out of my mouth. Unfortunately, I agree with you on the second part of what I quoted. :(

    There has to be a better way here - just has to be!
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    Typical idiotic Dem leadership move ~ they always figure out a way to make themselves look greedy, childish, etc...
     
  20. Sishir Chang

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    I would take a look at some of the campaign ads and rhetoric from 2002 before claiming that. Especially at the ads targeted at Max Cleland. The Republican strategy was clearly to tie Dem. opponents as being soft on terrorism by reminding people of 9/11 and raising the specter of another one.

    I'm saying this to defend what the Dems are doing but pointing out that both parties have and will exploit such things for political gain. I agree its disgusting but this isn't unprecendented and for the Repubs to present outrage now strikes me as particularly hypocritical.
     

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