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DeMarr Johnson

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  1. Santo

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    If Johnson is as good as MManal (draft expert) says he will NOT be there at #9. I don't think Johnson makes it to #9 i think we wind up with Moiso. But Word: Johnsons there at #9 we take him.
     
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    MManal is talking in terms of potential.

    Dermarr is very raw at this point, and there is a chance he busts. People question his desire.

    If Dermarr pans out, he could be a guy who averages 25 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, with over a steal per game. Or, he could bust and end up with career averages of 2.4, .3, .7, and .12

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  3. dice7_11

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    25 points a game is streching it a little. i see him averaging about 18 ppg if he reaches his full potential. he's not the type of player that's going to take 20 shots a game, he's not really a go to guy, more like a really good role player. reminds me a little of michael dickerson only 4 inches taller.
     
  4. Francis3

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    Trust me , Dermarr is a player that loves to shoot the ball alot. He will want to take around 20 shots. I see him avg around 20 something because he is going to want to shoot the ball alot.

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    i really don't see anyone in this draft averaging 20+ points a game besides swift, miles, and maybe martin.
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    If Dermarr reaches his full potential he will be a superstar, ie 25 points per game in his prime.

    He can light it up from the outside, and quick as lightning off the dribble.

    If he reaches his full potential, he'll be a 20 ppg scorer easy, he has scary potential, dare I say more than Miles, because he actually has a shot?

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  7. dice7_11

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    i don't think dermarr has superstar potential, he's an athletic freak and he's got a nice shooting touch but he is a streaky shooter and streaky shooters very rarely average 25 points a game, maybe if he adds some bulk and works on a post up game he could possibly average around 20 ppg.
     
  8. MManal

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    reminds me a little of michael dickerson only 4 inches taller.

    You realize that Michael Dickerson would be extremely scary if he was 4 inches taller. As it is, he gets 18 PPG at his height. If he was 4 inches taller and had better ball handling skills, he would be nasty.

    As Nike stated, the reason I like Johnson is b/c of his potential. His game has such excellent NBA potential. However, teams are not always willing to bank on that which is why he could fall to 9. Teams have different ways of drafting, some like to bank on potential while others simply want the finished product. I personally think Johnson has a lot more talent than a 9th overall pick should have but because of these reasons, it is looking like he could be there. My opinion is that the Cavs are making a HUGE blunder if they go for Tskalidis and leave Johnson on the board which appears to be what they want to do. Up until recently, I had them taking Johnson, but they just are not willing to go for his potential it seems. My opinion is that they are making a HUGE mistake, but I guess they enjoy being stuck in mediocrity or just a notch below that.


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    Damn it If we can get Demarr Johnson then let's not hesitate. If we can't get miles then damn it Johnson should be our boy. He has the speed the athleticsm and the potential to be a star.....I hope though while anderson is out there who doesn't demand the ball as much Demarr could easily get the points.... We'll also be praying for an awesome densive front court lineup..... someone told me though that the wizard has a rumor for being a cancer. that is why he has been traded to so many teams... is this true? if so then we could get rid of him.... and demarr can slip in the spot

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    Dermarr likes to shoot? Dermarr isn't afraid to shoot, but seemed to be happy with taking them when the oppurtunity came.

    Mobley likes to shoot. He doesn't wait for an opening, he creates it.

    My complaint with Dermarr has always been his knack for not using his talents by trying to play an all-around game too much instead of punishing a weak defender.

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  11. writhe

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    Hold on, boys. This may all be moot. Look what I found on ESPN:

    Rockets hope Cincy's DerMarr Johnson or Darius Miles slips to No. 9, but that's looking doubtful. If they keep the pick, they like Mike Miller there. Hawks seems set on Johnson at No. 6.

    Here's the link if you want it: http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/lawrence/605129.html



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    Id say atlanta would go for miller who can contribute immediatly. they will want to turn that franchise around quickly. i think they will go for miller.

    dermarr can very well be a 25 pgg scorer. he has unlimited scorring potential. he has a great shot, btw id say shooting 39% from the 3 as a freshmen is awesome. he played on such a talented team where half the time they were kicking so much ass he got a little lazy. dermarr can shoot the J or 3, in time he will be a better slasher, and if he adds bulk he can post up a lot of shrimpy SFs, or take bigger PFs off the dribble.

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  13. Joe Fan

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    Reading the tea leaves:

    Today on 610, Rudy gave short, measured responses to a lot of names that were thrown at him. When Johnson's name came up, he quickly rattled off a list of positives (ball handling, shooting). He concluded by remarking that Johnson suppressed his game to fit into the system at Cinci; that he did not show all of his game there.

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    btw id say shooting 39% from the 3 as a freshmen is awesome.

    I guess I'm still not sold on Johnson being a great shooter. I just haven't seen him do anything to prove that he's a great shooter.

    Why is 39% awesome (even though Johnson really only shot .371 from 3pt range)? The knock on Quentin Richardson (Soph) is that he can't shoot, yet he shot a higher percentage from the 3pt line than Johnson (.376 to Johnson's .371).

    In fact, if you want to look at strickly C-USA Frosh players, then how about UH's George Williams. He topped Johnson in every statistical category except fg% and blocks, but I don't see anybody claiming that Williams is a great shooter. Here's their stats from last year:

    Johnson Williams
    FG% .478 .516
    3pt% .371 .412
    Reb 3.8 8.5
    ast/g 1.4 1.6
    stl/g .968 1.54
    blk/g .938 .774
    pts/g 12.6 14.3
    ft% .737 .618

    Johnson came out of HS with the reputation as a good shooter, but at Cincy he didn't back up that reputation.

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    aelliott-Cinci also had Kenyon Martin and Mickeal on it, as well as Satterfield that were (except save Satterfield) good scorers.

    UH isn't a really strong team.

    Dermarr has a lot of athleticism which will have more and more of a positive effect on his game as he goes.

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    Cinci also had Kenyon Martin and Mickeal on it,

    Did Mickeal and Martin make him miss 3pointers? If anything having Martin on the inside gave Johnson some wide open looks from the arc. Sorry, I still say he's got a reputation as a shooter, but he didn't display it in college. Do you consider Q Richardson a great shooter?

    With all the talent that Cincy had, how could you not average more than 1.4 ast/game? You'd think that you'd get at least two per game by just throwing the ball into Martin.

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  17. Puedlfor

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    Actually, Q is a very good perimeter shooter, but his mid-range jumper is erratic. At least from what I've seen.

    As for Dermarr, he was misused in the Cincinatti offense. He was mostly confined to the perimeter and was really not able to unleash the athletic ability he posseses.

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    Camby has (I would think) a LOT of athleticism.. has that helped him?
    Steve Smith has (I would say) NO athleticism, but that hasn't stopped him averaging big numbers throughout his career.

    Athleticism means squat if you don't have a FEEL for the game.

    Being athletic means nothing if you don't have a desire to step up and play hard and get down and do the "dirty/scrappy" stuff.

    I seem to recall (and correct me here if my memory is poor) that Kenyon Martin busted his leg up pretty bad towards the end of the season? Now this Pete Mickeal guy, he stepped it up and busted his hump trying to lift the team, and surely DerMarr did the same.. surely... oh no, he didn't step it up, in fact he went MIA for long periods of games.

    I don't want a player who just doesn't care.

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    Actually, Q is a very good perimeter shooter
    Sorry, but 37% from a 19'9" arc doesn't make you a good outside shooter. Field Williams (from Waltrip HS), a Cincy signee, shot 62% from the same 19'9" line this year.

    As far as Johnson being misused, I have a tough time believing that Huggins told Johson to not go to the hoop. I think that it's more a matter of Johnson prefering to stand around the perimeter and bomb away. That's why his vertical isn't that big of a deal to me. What good is a 6'9" guy with a 40 inch vertical if he never attacks the basket and just settles for outside shots? I remember getting excited when UH signed Richard Hollis and his 48" vertical. Unfortunately, he never got within 15' of the hoop, so his leaping ability didn't do much good.

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    ae-Out of curiousity, who is it that you want to have the Rockets pick realistically at #9? You don't seem like the type who would like Moiso [​IMG]

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