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Definately not Unilateral

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  1. sinohero

    sinohero Member

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    One word everybody, including columnists, tv pundits and everyone else, should put to rest is "unilateral". America's action is without specific UN approval, call it "without UN" or "un-UN" (maybe the UN had the unlucky name from the beginning that condemned it to its irrelevance?). Whenever I hear France plus Germany plus Belgium being refered to as "multilateral", I feel funny as people continue to label the 30 nation coalition "unilateralist".



    Powell: 30 Nations Support U.S. on Iraq

    2 hours, 35 minutes ago


    By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

    WASHINGTON - As the United States moved closer to war with Iraq (news - web sites), Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said Tuesday that 30 nations have declared varying levels of support and 15 others have given their backing privately.


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    Most of the nations named by Powell would not have a combat role, but have allowed the United States to base troops on their soil and to let U.S. planes overfly their territory. Others have offered expertise in dealing with possible chemical weapons attacks.

    "We now have a coalition of the willing that includes some 30 nations who publicly said they could be included in such a listing," Powell said, "and there are 15 other nations, for one reason or another, who do not wish to be publicly named but will be supporting the coalition."

    Powell told reporters he had received assurances of open support in telephone conversations Tuesday from the foreign ministers of Denmark and the Netherlands, which were listed, but that Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) had reaffirmed his opposition to war with Iraq in a telephone conversation with President Bush (news - web sites).

    But Powell said a mutual concern over terrorism and a planned reduction in nuclear weapons arsenals "pull us together, and I think we will have this disagreement and move on."

    At the same time, Powell said Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) so far had rejected Bush's demand that he leave Iraq, but that a number of countries were still trying to persuade the Iraqi president to go into exile.

    "He has essentially dismissed the message," Powell said.

    Asked when the United States may go to war against Iraq, the former Army general said he had "learned long ago not to make predictions."

    The State Department released the list of 30 countries, one of which, Japan, was identified as only a post-conflict member of the coalition.

    Spokesman Richard Boucher said some of them "may put troops on the ground," while others would take on other roles, such as assisting in a defense against the use of chemical or biological weapons or permitting allied combat planes to fly over their territory.

    Boucher did not specify which countries would send troops to fight. But Britain is known to have contributed about 45,000 troops, Australia has offered 2,000 and Poland, 200. Albania has offered 70 soldiers for noncombat roles and Romania contributed 278 non-combat experts in demining, in chemical and biological decontamination and military police.

    No Arab country was listed by the State Department. But Boucher declined to say none supported the United States against Iraq.

    On the diplomatic front, Powell met with his senior staff on Tuesday as "we move into a new phase of diplomacy," Boucher said.

    The U.S. focus will be on the humanitarian situation and considering ways to assure food is distributed to the Iraqi people and that oil exports are continued after the war, Boucher said.

    The spokesman said the United States would seek a U.N. resolution to ensure food distribution.

    Turkey was included on the list, and Powell said even as the Turkish parliament debates a U.S. proposal to use Turkish territory for an invasion of northern Iraq he was confident of Turkish cooperation in one form or another.

    Powell also hinted that if the parliament accepts the U.S. proposal the Bush administration might revive its offer of $6 billion in special economic assistance.




    Powell said war plans have been drawn up designed to minimize Iraqi civilian casualties and to warn Iraqi commanders about their actions. He said the U.S. aim was "to make it as quick as possible."

    Powell also said he would not attend a U.N. Security Council meeting on Wednesday at which the chief U.N. weapons inspector, Hans Blix, is due to make a report.

    France and Russia, which opposed war and sought to extend inspections, have indicated they would be represented by their foreign ministers.

    But Powell said he saw no point in going, and that U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte would represent the United States.

    "It's not a question of the United States boycotting the meeting," Powell said. "It's just that I don't particularly see a need for me to go."
     
  2. Timing

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    When the US has four or five times as many troops on the ground as the 29 other nations combined I think it's pretty fair to say this is an American war.
     
  3. TheFreak

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    Does anyone see Dean's candidacy being finished pretty soon? He's the only one of the Democratic candidates opposing the war. Not to mention he keeps throwing out the bogus 'unilateral' stuff. He could be looking like a fool here in a minute.
     
  4. sinohero

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    Exactly the same thing would happen if the UN authorized the invasion, but then would you still call it unilateral?
     
  5. Timing

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    What were the numbers in the last war? The last time even Syria had troops there if I remember correctly. I saw the Gulf War as an American war but not unilateral, no.

    I guess what I would say is that while technically having 30 nations constitutes a multilateral coalition that it's pretty shallow in reality when many of the international powers and our best allies aren't a part of it.
     
  6. sinohero

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    When it comes to keeping friends, I would say one Blair is worth ten back-stabbing Chirac.
     

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