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Defense on an elite PG

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Don FakeFan, Nov 16, 2010.

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  1. Don FakeFan

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    Really?

    Lowry just displayed his defense on Rose. He played all the defense he could but Rose still got his number. 33 points on 65% shooting.

    PG : 33 vs. 7. the game.

    Rose did not bother to play any defense on Lowry because Lowry does not shoot. A non shooting PG is a disaster to any team.

    what I've learned:
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    Since PGs are unstoppable anyways, we need a lot points from point guard position to counter the loss. Lowry is simply not the answer.
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Derrick Rose is a stud, AB would have been torched just as bad.

    The only difference was AB would have scored some points with him, and forced D Rose to guard him on the perimeter.

    Lowry was being left 100% alone outside of 15 feet, Rose was on the foul line playing a zone and clogging the paint.

    AB would have killed that defense.

    I will say that people who were complaining about AB going under the screens need to watch what Lowry is doing, he went under almost all the screens tonight.

    As I said earlier, I think it is the Rockets schemes to go under the screens.....not the PG's fault.

    DD
     
  3. Hball

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    He would have done the same thing to brooks.
     
  4. MightyMog

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    Nobody said we didn't need AB. Most people are advocating he come off as the 6th man.

    That can also mean he stays in the 4th to finish games, while he plays SG, because KM our real SG disappears in the 4th.
     
  5. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    I'm fully in favor of Bruce Bowen style defense. Trip him, poke him in the eye, do what you gotta do to slow him down.
     
  6. apollo33

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    Rose wouldve dropped 50 on AB tonight,

    He was playing like a madman
     
  7. rockets934life

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    There is NO defense, just hope he has an off night. Tomorrow night will be just as bad but hopefully the squad will execute a lot better.
     
  8. flamingdts

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    Brooks would probably have fouled out by then end of the first quarter, and Derrick Rose would have scored 10+ points every quarter.

    Rose was on fire today, can't stop that. Would I put Martin on Kobe instead of Battier even though Kobe is fire? Of course not.

    We're acting like Derrick Rose will score the same amount of points on Brooks and not much much more.
     
  9. Tom Bombadillo

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    Lowry defends Derrick Rose well, gets him in foul trouble...
    Bulls bring in CJ Watson.
    Rick Adelman elects to play Lowry for 24 minutes in the second half.
    Lowry now has to guard a fresh CJ Watson.
    Rose comes into the game fresh.
    Lowry is spent...

    Case in point, Rick played his bench 31 minutes total.

    Ronnie Brewer played for 32 minutes off the bench.

    Brad Miller and Luis Scola are awful at rotating over to stop a penetrating PG.

    Jordan Hill plays 5 minutes.

    Still, I am guessing that Daryl Morey was one of those 4 GM's trying to get Chauncey...
     
  10. jaybiddyforeal

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    rose is a career 24% shooter from 3. Tonight he was 4-5 from behind the arc. Obviously the game plan was to let him shoot which is why lowry went under every single screen. When you're hot you're hot. Not much anyone can do about it...

    The bench play and bad coaching down the stretch is what lost us the game.
     
  11. sammy

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    And they scored basically under 90 pts before the questionable foul fest..

    Lowry's impact is obvious. The team is playing harder and teams are scoring less.

    You can't win when you go through long stretches without scoring points esp in the fourth. We need that extra star. Yao is not him.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    No one has ever questioned whether they are better defenders with Lowry, it is whether they can score enough points to win.

    Clearly Lowry is not good enough on offense, he is what he is...a good 20 minutes push the ball off the bench player.

    AB is a 30+mpg guy who scores the ball assists, and struggles on defense.

    But when the game slows down in the 4th quarter, we DESPERATLY need AB, he is our only guy that can create a quality shot.....Lowry is terrible at that....

    DD
     
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    The big men HAVE to show better. Especially when Noah is setting the screen. He's not a perimeter threat.
     
  14. mvpcrossxover

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    it's still early in the season and the rockets need to get their crap together
    if they don't then they're screw. feels like some of the guys are not in sync. go do more scrimmage and build up the chemistry damn it
     
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    Who else was he going to play instead of Lowry? Ish was part of the 2nd quarter debacle. Everyone complaining about Rick not using his bench needs to realize that 40% of the starting unit is made up of bench players.
     
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    Yes that's why Dana Barros and Darrell Armstrong were franchise alpha dog players - they simply outscored everyone else.
     
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    that's not his point, his point is that brooks would have been able to be more efficient on offense to make up for his defense more than lowry did
     
  18. Htown's2kFinest

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    Those damn 5 points would've changed it all.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    They shouldn't have counted though, they were late, Rox got to run the offense better than that...

    Rox needed AB badly tonight, they were not even guarding Kyle on the perimeter...it was like watching Rafer Alston on offense all over again in the 4th quarter.....without the stupid 3pt clanks.

    The Bulls were just daring Kyle to shoot......get used to a big dose of that going forward until AB gets back.

    DD
     
  20. wekko368

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    Sure, Brooks probably would've done better than Lowry offensively. But he would've probably done worse than Lowry defensively. Who knows what the net effect would've been?

    But given how well Rose was getting to the rim and hitting his 3's, I don't regret having Lowry's defense instead of Brooks' offense.
     

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