Sweetness!...Big, big wins with only one casualty for gun rights... 11/3/04: Another stunning electoral defeat for the anti-gun movement As with the mid-term elections two years ago, gun owners once again had a huge night. In addition to President Bush apparently having won a second term, Republicans have picked up several seats in the House, and gained a few seats in the Senate as well. While the so-called "assault weapons" ban was never really at the forefront of the presidential race, we don't need to be reminded of the promise anti-gun forces made that voters would retaliate en masse against President Bush for not actively pushing for the ban's renewal, resulting in a decisive defeat. Obviously this did not happen, nor, to my knowledge, did any Senator who opposed renewal of the AWB lose his or her seat as a result. In short, the public has responded with a resounding *yawn* on this issue. In other words, according to the anti-gun organizations and politicians' way of thinking, a mandate for the expiration and non-renewal of the so-called "assault weapons" ban has been confirmed. Regarding the Senate, where a renewal of the AWB passed by a thin margin of only a couple of votes, attempts to reinstate the ban in 2005 are going to have an even tougher road in that body now. Retiring Senators who recently voted for the ban renewal in South Carolina, North Carolina, Louisiana, and Florida have been replaced by pro-gun, anti-AWB Republicans. Our only significant loss appears to have been in Colorado, with an anti-AWB vote being replaced by anti-gun Ken Salazar, who defeated the undeniably pro-gun Pete Coors. But the big news in the Senate is the incredible victory for gun owners as well as the general public, being the ousting of Democrat obstructionist-in-chief Sen. Tom Daschle in favor of pro-gun Republican John Thune. While Daschle supported the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms bill as a token pro-gun stance, he voted in favor of attaching the AWB and other poison pill amendments to the bill, plus demanded a guarantee that these provisions would not be stripped off when reconciling the amended bill with the clean House version, effectively killing it. Clearly, aside from the Bush victory, Daschle's defeat is the single biggest victory of the night for us. Hats off to South Dakota voters for finally getting rid of this guy! So, it appears that we have a net gain of four anti-AWB votes in the Senate, making Dianne Feinstein's anti-gun aspirations in the next two years significantly more difficult than they already were. Of course with the expected avalanche of Democrat lawsuits, there's a slight possibility that these results could change (though, with the announcement just now that Kerry has conceded, this is not likely). But as of right now, all indications are that we won big, which will certainly help us remain on the offensive in the coming year. Good work everyone, WE DID IT!!!!! You should be proud. www.awbansunset.com
In the words of Team America, **** yeah! I'm so happy that our 2nd Amendment rights were preserved on election day. I'm so tickled (but not pink) that the election went the way it did. It showed that disingenuousness (I want me a hunting license said Kerry) will always wilt under the halogen bulb of the truth. It is a good day for American and an even greater day for gun owners. RR, the next time I visit Texas, we'll have to get a Clutchfans Range Day together.
Aww......defeat is a stinky cologne.....and you reek of it. The venom of the insane left on display for all to see is an ugly sight.
Darn it. And my hyper elite kung fu squad of the Five Deadly Venoms was all ready to invade Roxran's pad if Kerry won and took his guns. Also, my viet cong tunnel underneath the bamaslammer family compound is now in vain now that he has a much improved rate of fire. Anybody want to buy a bunch of georgia dirt?
I don't live in GA anymore, hoss. My digs are in the Tampa/St. Pete area now as I and my lovely wife swung Florida for the Prez. And if you tunnel under the Slammer compound, you are likely to get flooded out by the canal our house sits upon that leads out to the Gulf. At least I see you've maintained your sense of humor.
While I believe Americans should have the right to keep and bear arms, there do need to be restrictions on fully automatic weapons and certain types of handguns. Gun victims need compensation from firearms companies. Perhaps laws should be passed allowing a set sum (say, $30,000 per year for each of the victim's children and spouse until the children become 18 or complete college and the spouse retires at age 68).
most hunting organization are against bush because he has turned over so much federal land that hunters could hunt on over to the logging industry. it's true
Fully automatic weapons have been illegal (technically heavily regulated) in America for 70 years. Automatic weapons manufactured after 1986 cannot regularly be sold to civilians. Great idea. I think auto makers should be required to pay the same whenever one of their products kills someone.
Now, on a serious note, "semi-automatic" weapons like M-16s, AK47s and UZIs can easily be converted to fully automatic. Shooting a deer 30 times takes you out of the realm of being a hunter.
It's not easy to do this. I can't if you dropped the parts on my lap to put in my Bushmaster. Also, it is very difficult in getting the parts as you have to prove/show a legal BATF FFL license to even get them ordered... I just took my new "no-ban" Bushmaster M16A2 rifle (with the new high quality 30 round mags) to the indoor range...Nice! Loud, but not as much as you might think. Super accurate! I want to get a bayonet knife on it just for the looks... (I also have an M4 type carbine still on order.)
ROXRAN... I will be happy when, and if, we see the demise of the "one issue" Republican. Admittedly, that's from my perspective as a Democrat, but I have a very old friend who's an ardent, even "rabid," gun owner (as in, he spends way too much money on them, has a small, but legal, arsenal, and could make a down payment on a house with what he's spent on them... he doesn't have that much money laying around, and could use a new house!), who is liberal on social issues, yet sees a plot behind every attempt to have any sort of regulation. He votes Republican only because of this issue. He's not religious, he's not prejudiced (except for anyone who even hinted at gun regulation), he's not wealthy, he doesn't live in the suburbs, he scraps to get by on what he earns... in short, he is nothing like a "typical" Republican. In fact, he's not really a Republican at all. He comes across like one when he starts in on the various "plots" to take away his guns. That bothers me. I'm a gun owner myself, but have always been able to separate that from my politics. He has become obsessed with it. The worst thing, in my opinion, that ever happened to him was to become involved with the NRA. He completely buys into everything they say, about anything. And he closes his mind to any thing, person, or idea they have told him is against gun ownership, true or not. He's caught up in the worse sort of demagoguery. I could think of several analogies from history that I could use to compare his experience with the NRA to, but I won't, because much of it would be laughed off. This is a guy, a few years younger than me, that I let tag along to dozens of concerts in our hippie days. He was "of the Left," in the jargon we currently use, until he got caught up in this NRA/gun mania. I can sit and tell him about how we went hunting, while we were hippies in the '60's, and he'll smile and laugh about it. Then, if I ask him where that fellow went that I had so many good times with, and why we don't seem to be able to have much in the way of a conversation any longer, unless it's about the "old days," then his eyes glaze over, and he starts muttering about guns, the NRA, that ******* Clinton, those ******* Democrats trying to take away his guns, and it goes downhill from there. I don't see much of him, because he's become obsessed with this so much. I've asked him if I've changed a lot from the guy who did so much with him, and he'll say, "No. Except that you support those (fill in several blanks)." I'll reply that, if anything, I'm probably more conservative today than I was then, and it matters not. He's already launched into a rant that sounds like it's been written by someone else. I find it sad and disturbing. ROXRAN, I understand your passion for your hobby, but have you ever objectively considered that, perhaps, you've gone too far? That this one issue has become the governing factor in much of your life? And that maybe it's unhealthy? Just a thought, from someone who knows more about this than you might think. Keep D&D Civil!!
