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David Weathers

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketfat, Aug 7, 2004.

  1. rocketfat

    rocketfat Member

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    looks like he's on a mission after last month's all-star snub, and has to be considered the front-runner for the cy young at this point.

    somebody ****ING explain to me how many games a pitcher has to ruin and how many runs/appearance a reliever has to give up on this team before they get sent down.

    i cant take it anymore.


    p.s. - gallo, miceli, harville, bullinger, and redding also suck.

    these guys are all the same damn pitcher, with different letters and #'s on the backs of their uniforms.

    i'm going to go hang myself
     
  2. whag00

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    If I had a choice between re-signing Beltran or adding 2 quality arms to the pen and another starting pitcher…I’d take the pitching help no contest.
     
  3. Mr. Mooch

    Mr. Mooch Contributing Member

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    I don't know what the hell the team is thinking. How can they let this guy play?!?! He was HORRIBLE in NY and is even worse here.

    I think it's time for Hunsicker to hang up the shoes; half of the no-hitter from last year is gone. I don't want to hear how great of a job he's done in getting Clemens and Pettitte, because he didn't do ****. THEY came to Houston; what did Hunsicker do?!?!

    I think he's a nice guy, but he's just awful of late trying to understand what talent is. I give him props for dumping Dotel to Oakland (who is almost as awful as Weathers) and getting Beltran, but if he leaves without this team making the playoffs and him not being traded for prospects, I'll be pissed. I know that's not really fair, but I don't care.

    I say the only way he should stay is if he finds a way to keep Beltran. If Carlos leaves, so should Hunsicker, although I know it has a lot more to do with McLane.

    Being facetious here, but:

    This bullpen makes Wohlers and Ankiel look like freaking Gagné and Hoffman.
     
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  4. xiki

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    OK -- which is worse:

    Losing Doggie
    Losing Doggie and having him become the $12 million man again
    Getting the dog-armed Westher?
     
  5. isoman2kx

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    Gallo has BEEN AWFUL

    everytime I watch the guy pitch he seems to give up runs , regardless if we're up or down :|
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Of course you forgot to mention what else happened because we traded Hidalgo.
     
  7. xiki

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    The Beltran trade? More losing games? Looking for Baylor before Scraps is even in place? What?
     
  8. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Ding, ding, ding.

    Without the Hidalgo trade, there'd be no Beltran trade. While some dimiss our chances of resigning him, there's absolutely no chance if we didn't make that trade.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    Weathers = Sucky baseball player
     
  10. rocketfat

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    weathers didnt give up any runs today
     
  11. Preston27

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    I can't hate Weather's too much. My first MLB game I went to was Astros-Brewers in 1999 and he threw me a ball while he was shagging balls in the outfield.
     
  12. spence99

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    Who cares if the Beltran trade didn't happen. Our team has not started winning more since we got him. He has only hit .240 for us, so he hasn't been that great. His defense is a big improvement, but we really needed more offense. He has hit 10 HR's, but hasn't done much else offensively.
    Without the Beltran trade, we would still have Buck as a prospect. Although it looks like it definitely didn't hurt losing Dotel.
     
  13. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    And Buck hasn't done squat with the Royals.

    Bottom line is that Beltran is a five-tool player, something that Hidalgo was not. Regardless of what you think our chances are at resigning him, there's at least a chance now, albeit probably a small one. However, that's much more than the chance we had if we hadn't traded for him. Also, had he stayed in Houston, there's a good chance that Hidalgo wouldn't have performed like he has with the Mets.

    It was a necessary trade.
     
  14. hjg877

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    I agree with everything you say, but I'm not sold on the having any small chance of re-signing Beltran. I just don't see any way of it happening, especially with Hunsicker and McLane. I mean, Beltrain claims he will only sign if he thinks this team can win, meaning he needs to see player movement this offseason or the organization go to great lengths to get Clemens back. Any chance of signing Beltran would hinder the Astros even further this offseason when you consider that wherever he signs will be at a later date than many others as A LOT of team will be bidding for his services. So eithe rHouston miraculously signs him or most likely doesn't and loses out on other movement this offseason.

    I didn't want to get into specifics, but I did; I personally feel a chance of signing Carlos is .001%. And it has been stated that he 'might consider' Houston, but he may just be deflecting criticism (I'm thinking from Justice) -- for now.

    And about Beltran alluding to the fact the he wants to be on a winning team...well that's crap; watch him sign with like Pittsburgh (if they offered the most $$$); I call it the Minute Maid Park theory.

    Also, I'd be interested to see what Gaetti could've done with Hidalgo, but I doubt he would have changed.
     
  15. jtotheb

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    David Weathers = Eugene Tackleberry
     
  16. rocketfat

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    another tip of the hat to big dave for last night and today's efforts
     
  17. bigboymumu

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    Just release the guy!
     
  18. Surfguy

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    Weathers hasn't done a damn thing all season. He just flat out sucks. Why Garner goes with him in a close game is beyond comprehension.

    Should have released him or sent him down with that other sucky pitcher Redding.

    I WANT THIS SEASON TO END! THERE IS NO HOPE! WE SUCK!
     
  19. pugsly8422

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    He said it for me.

    Pugs
     
  20. No Worries

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    The days when the Astros score one run make me think otherwise. No matter how much quality pitching a team has, you are not going to win a lot of games by scoring one run.
     

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