Went out with this incredibly hot (but short like 5'1") chick who is a physical therapist. All we did was go to dinner which I think is really all that needs to be done for a first face-to-face meeting. I wanted to go to a movie with her afterwards, but we would have had to kill an hour of just talking and walking around with one another. However, she had gone off to the bathroom and when she came back told me that these friends of hers were coming to see her and were close to being at her house. She claimed that she had no idea when they were coming - they were just going to come at some point during the weekend. She didn't say no to me about a movie but it was strongly hinted that she rather spend time with them because, in her words, she didn't want it to "be too late in hanging out with them." I wasn't too happy (after all she has a smoking hot body on her) but said okay and that we would go see a movie another time. She thanked me for being "so understanding" and I walked her out to her vehicle. I could sense this vibe that she felt I was going to hug her and she didn't want that. So, for the first time in a long while, I ended a date with a woman without any physical contact (yes, hugging is somewhat lame but it is physical contact ). She did tell me to "call her whenever". As I drove home, I just didn't have a good feeling about getting another date. So, I called Monday night, got her answering machine, and left a message for her to call me back. My message was not long and I know she got the message. The other times I have called her, she always called me back although sometimes it would be an hour or two. But here it is, about ready to call it a night and still no response back from her. Looks like she is a "game player". Fortunately, there is an even hotter chick I have been talking to on the side and it seems like we have hit it off better than I did with the physical therapist chick. So, I have decided not to make any more contact with the PT unless she calls or emails me. It is nice when there is someone else you can turn to when you have a chick who isn't being on the level with you. So, I am just wondering if there are guys out there that will continue to persist after a woman. Meaning, that you would continue to call or email until you got a definite response - even one that says "Stay the hell away from me, you freak!" I am now 32 and I just feel that I am too old to be playing these games but it seems to be a sad fact of dating that this is a very common thing. It just bugs me that people can't be straightforward with one another or in the very least say "no thanks". Maybe this chick wants me to chase after her, but it isn't going to happen. The more I thought about it, the more I realize that she seems a little TOO outgoing for me and doesn't look like she is really interested in dating anybody long-term. Which that is fine, but spare me the bull**** line of "call me whenever".
I didn't have a chance to read the rest of your book..eh..post but..its good you found someone better games are stupid
Manny- Under no circumstances should you call that PT back. Cross her off of your list. As for games, what fun is dating without the games?
Give the ho biscuit another chance. You know my motto: It's always good to have more balls in the air, in order to one day have more balls in the air.
Manny, I know people who act like that all the time. The best thing to do is just to spend your time hanging and meeting with people who want to call you back and hang out with you. I have this hot friend that acts extremely prissy. She wouldn't call me unless she's very bored or needs someone to help her with something. And even if I was doing her a favor, she'd want me to pick her up and stuff. And then when I go out to a party and she sees me she would always say, "Hey, why don't YOU ever call me out anymore?" I always want to tell her it's cuz she's very high maintanence, but I always hold my tongue because it never hurts to have a hot friend . Needless to say, I rarely call her up anymore.
I will try to be serious about this one, since it seems legit and we DON'T NEED PICTURES. The description was enough. Señor Manny, to me your "It is nice when there is someone else you can turn to when you have a chick who isn't being on the level with you" theory sounds sort of like a Sith thing (there are always two, never more)... so while you're with this new good one, you will have another one or try to? Please tell me you don't two-time these girls. I would be persistent. What if she gives you the good-old "you're too good for me" line? Maybe you ARE too good for her if she's not letting you get back into her life. Maybe it DOES need to be cleared up... get some closure with this PT (does that mean P** T*ng?) girl and let your mind be at ease...else it will haunt you forever. AND CUE the ISABEL let-me-help-your-relationship response...
You did the right thing man. I can't keep myself from going after a friend of mine. I have been turned down or anything. ON late nights after drinking, a few times, she has asked me to come over to her room and kiss her etc, and says it can't happen....there's no way...but she wants me to kiss her. So all this thing has been for a year or so is just latenight messing around. I wish it would go farther, the chick is smoking. And yes this is one of the chicks I lived with the last year. Okay...enough of my....rant...i guess.
Isabel's late night random jumble of relationship thread advice: Personally, I hate playing games and don't understand the people who do it. So, if you're looking to see what motivates those people, you've come to the wrong place. Manny - Sounds like the PT may not be that into you. If she is playing games instead, they're not the kind of games you want to deal with. Why make yourself miserable? Especially when you have other chicks you're talking to. Let that one go - she was too short for you anyway. When you're not in a serious relationship and just dating to see if you'll get along with people, I don't see why you have to be exclusive. Probably better not to have all your eggs in one basket at that point. Much easier emotionally. Just as long as you're not doing the "rebound" thing from one to another. (though most everyone does that ) MartianMan - your friend knows she is hot and uses it to her advantage. These people are extremely self-centered. Unless you really think it's worth it (and doubt you'll really see the payoff you're looking for), stay away. I think you may have learned that by now. (by the way, girls like that make some of us want to puke... of course, they're also the ones that all the guys are after, so maybe it works. Or maybe they just look good enough and anything they did would work.) In response to chow_yun_fat's point, I like serious guys. Maybe that's unusual, but it just depends who would get along with your personality. Not sure if anyone likes girls who are too serious anyway. I should leave the relationship stuff to someone who understands it. (of course, they're all on dates or happily spending time with their SO's, not on this board all night)
You could have stopped right there. They always think, somehow, someway, that the BS is actually helping the situation - being nice and all - when in reality it just gives the wrong idea and/or false hopes and beliefs. Guys would rather have it straight, cut the bullsh*t. Move on to the next.
You are definitely right. She's probably grown up with guys bending over trying to help her with everything. I don't really care because I wasn't trying to date her. I would never date such a prissy girl. Well...maybe for a little bit for fun .
Manny for the love of God stop thinking so much. Smoke a couple joints before your next little date, do whatever you need to do, but loosen up brother. This is how I play a game with my date -------- Girl : Hey thanks for picking me up Me : no problem, I've arranged for us to have a nice dinner at a 4 star french resteraunt, but since I hate fancy expensive food you can go in and have a good time. In the meantime I'll just amuse myself with this January Issue of Hustler and scrounge a few fries off my floormat. Girl : You're joking right? Me : yeah... It'll actually be the november issue of penthouse featuring the DVDA all stars. Girl : You're a pig, let me out of this car. Me : Whatever. (She gets ready to leave) Me : Actually wait, can we start over? I'm so sorry I'm a little delusional sometimes and pretend I'm a paranoid schizophrenic. Girl : Uh huh, well I still don't think this is going to work out. (I weep openly and berate myself for being such an idiot) Me : (Sobbing) GOD I'm SO STUPID, WHY CAN'T I EVER GET THIS RIGHT. Girl : C'mon it's not your fault, you uh... just need some help. Look do you want to have sex with me? Me : *sniff* ok. *sniff* True story.
Manny, Use the good ol ladder theory and entertain the other girl. The PT likes the nice guy routine on the surface but probably isn't her true type. She's playing these games to test you. She probably wants a jerk or one of those stereotypical cowboys who seem like they're in control. If you're game for a little fun, it'll probably be worthwhile... otherwise seek stability by staying away from her.
Playing games as a guy does not work as evident in my 0:20 record. That's a dates to years alive ratio. Just a FYI.
Manny, here's a story about a friend of mine. He was having problems getting a chick to hand on to long-term...he was getting older around 35. He went on a date with this hot chick who had the greatest personality after asking her out about a 100 times. The date went great. So great in fact that he got lucky D) at the end of the night. We'll to get to the point, he somehow got her pregnant...and now they are married (very happily). So the moral of this story is, if the 1st date goes well, then why risk a 2nd one...just knock her up and your set for life. By the way, she was pissed when she found out she was pregnant. Hope that helps man
Cool story that they're happily married. That should be in the "Greatest Moments of Hook Up History".
