[Data Graphics] Find the gender pay gap of your occuption

Makes you wonder why employers hire men at all.

 

I'm pretty much a slave for the Man. How much does a slave make?

 

Women earn 87% of what I do.


I still don't believe that. It's closer to 100% if not 100%, I'm sure.

 

Haven't read this study, but this stuff almost always is bull****.

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Is there any information about how they conducted the study?

I ask, because the Washington Post did something similar a few weeks back for recent college grads. Which of course find women "make less" right at the start of their careers. Then, buried at the end article it says, "the study didn't account for profession", which immediately invalidates the entire article.

For instance, in this study, did they compare each women only to men in the same profession, who went to the same college, got the same degree, are the same age, had the same or (to really be sure of it) a slightly higher GPA, work at the same company, in the same location, have the same years of experience, and hadn't taken a break from their career at any point to raise kids.

Even after that, there are still factors that could come into play other than female-led HR department decides to pay females less. But at minimum I would like a study that accounts for the above factors.

 

They left stripping out.

 

At least for the medical side I think I can corroborate this with what I know. Most academic medical centers reimburse their physicians in a standardized fashion. Clinical attendings make a certain amount based on experience and title (assoc professor, asst professor, etc), but they also get a significant bonus based on generated RVU's--relative value units, something that Medicare devised a long time ago to try to quantify work by doctors across all professions.

So, long story short, men and women doctors in my department all get paid the same rates, but the added ability to generate income by seeing more patients and performing more procedures makes it such that it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see average salaries of men be something like 30% higher than women where I work.

Anecdotally it goes like this: take two physicians in my department of about the same age. One is a 50yo female doctor with four kids, married to another high income earner. She seems really busy juggling home and work life, but still manages to make time for exercising and keeps her life pretty well balanced. Clinic half days with her are relatively briskly flowing, with an average of 5 old and 3 new patients seen. At the same time the 53yo male doctor in our department just had his son get accepted to Columbia undergrad. He was already known as a crazy hard worker, always running around and looking stressed out, but things have gotten even worse since he got the good news that his son would be going there. Clinic half days with him are absolute hell: usually 14-15 people are on the census, and morning clinics (with dedicated afternoon research time) will bleed into the 1:30pm range, while afternoon clinics go until 7-8pm. Fellows dread his clinic.

So yes the man makes more than the woman. Probably a lot more. His wife is a PhD also, but makes much less than the female doctor's husband. The male doctor shoulders much more burden in terms of supporting his family, and probably has a poorer quality of life for doing so. But these are just life choices that have been made between the two of them. There was not systematic discrimination involved that led to the wage gap. And no way to realistically "fix" this to give women more money.

Now this is restricted to clinical academic medicine. Basic science and grant funded research in academic medicine are much more of a free agency kind of game, where if you've got a reputation +/- a good grant, you'll have institutions all across the country vying for your services, and your salary potential is much higher and subject to the vagaries of the market. In this situation the gender gap might have room to expand, particularly if what behavioral economists say is true that women negotiate far less than men. Nonetheless, it's perhaps the best thing ever to be a high achieving female in this regard, because every institution would love to have you.

So there's my legitimization of the wage gap, at least in the field I'm working in.

 

False meme is false.

 

For "HR Workers" it says women earn 80% of what male counterparts average.

But I've seen numbers showing that men earn up to 40% more on average in this field. And that's even with women holding over 75% of the jobs in the HR field.

 

I am 100% certain that all the female employees on my team - who have the same job title I do - make more money than I do.

(But to be fair they all have better experience / backgrounds than I do. Well, all except one, but she kisses ass 24/7.)

 

This is total BS

All you have to do if you're a decent looking female is suck up to your bosses and you'll get a pay raise.

 

Meh , men inflating their earning to impress others .

135k median for female Physician is unrealistic

 

pay is what you negotiate, not what you deserve

 

hardly seen a female Physician who works 5 days a week when they have family. tax system does't make sense to earn/work more than needed,so this why there is a marginal pay difference but not like what the wallStreetJournal suggested

 

Sales isn't even represented in the demographic.

 

I have no way to back this up, but I could swear that when accounting for marital status: single women under 35 earn more than single men under 35 in the same profession, which is the first time that has happened.

Anecdote: I work in both Tech and O&G: women technical engineers are very hard to find, so usually make more than their male counterparts. I have worked for a company that also affirmative actions women into leadership roles. Since there tends to be very few relative women in the technical functions (engineering, etc.) women tend to dominate the leadership of the business functions: Finance, HR, Operations, Accounting, etc. to make up for it. I've personally worked for some women leaders that I greatly respect. They tended to be very aggressive in pursuing salary/position and made just as much if not more than their male counterparts.