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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Jugdish

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    The unvaccinated are putting everyone at risk if ICUs fill up again. People go to the hospital for things other than Covid...or at least they did, when Covid wasn't rampant.
     
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    this is from summer 2020, dude is a time traveler

     
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    So those that are vaccinated are not immune to the vaccine. They are far less likely to get it. The fewer people that get it, the less variants there will be. That's why everyone who is able should get the vaccine. Stopping the variants is good for each person, the community, the economy, etc.

    It's just that simple.
     
  4. jchu14

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    Luckily, the number of first doses are trending up. it was around 280k per day on July 20th and now up to 390k per day as of July 29th.

    CDC changing mask recommendations may have jolted some fence sitters to vaccinate by letting them know that Delta variant can be really serious. These fence sitters could also be getting vaccinated because they see their friends and families getting sick with covid due to the surge.

    I don't think if we'll truly figure out if the annoucement was good or bad. I still think it's better for the CDC to err on the side of caution though.
     
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  5. Gioan Baotixita

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    I will take the vaccine the moment you liberal loonies stop censoring the known proven drug therapy and close that damn border so the illegals won't be able to spread it across America. Deal?
     
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  6. NewRoxFan

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    excellent first post :rolleyes:
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Lol who cares? Keep living the one life you have in fear you dolt.
     
  10. durvasa

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    It's pretty effective at that as well, but that effectiveness is waning (based on the Israeli data, I think). Boosters may be needed soon.

    What are you referring to? I haven't seen anyone pushing this narrative. The risk is an overloaded hospital system, which does impact the vaccinated for entirely different reasons, and variants evolving that we don't have effective vaccination protection against.
     
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  11. durvasa

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    LOL. There is a much more straightforward explanation for what is going on right now -- hundreds of thousands of people died last year, we don't want to repeat that, infections/hospitalizations are trending upwards again and data suggests vaccinated people are also spreading the virus and putting vulnerable people at risk.

    There is no need to invoke conspiracy theories like a crackpot.
     
  12. txtony

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    You should direct this @Commodore . I remember he was the one proclaiming victory for these gov.

    Here is the thing with covid - anyone proclaiming anything in some absolute term will likely be seen as idiots. Things changes fast and no one has a full picture… the data we see are always lagging. We can only predict so much with something new and changing frequently.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if all a sudden the spike in cases crash down soon (see UK and India) and I also wouldn’t be surprised if it come back with a vengeance in the fall.

    The only thing I’m quite sure of is we have a great tool for stopping this - vaccines. And we should seriously make it hard on people that continue by choice to not be vaccinated.
     
  13. NewRoxFan

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    Ted Cruz is that you?

     
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  15. Cherenqueco

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    The Chron lol....fake news
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    This is really very simple.

    People who are unvaccinated are more likely to become infected and more likely to get sick. As we saw multiple times during the pandemic we have a finite amount of ICU beds and other health resources. If those are filling up because COVID-19 cases it makes it more difficult to get treatment for other things. This happened when people with non-COVID-19 related medical issues had to delay treatment or in some cases travel long distances to get treatment when local ER's and ICU's were filling up with COVID patients.

    Second is that the more people that continue to get infected the more variants arise. We really have to think about this like we think about forest fires. Just because we contain them doesn't mean that they won't spread again or spark up again as long as hot spots persists.

    This idea that insisting that more people get vaccinated is because people want to be petty tyrants is fantasy projection. I doubt the vast vast majority of people who are concerned about the spread of this disease probably would care as much about people getting vaccinated as much as people eating Kosher if it there weren't wider affects.
     
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    This dude rocks, he looks a little like David Lemieux. He's not only dropping truth, but he probably can drop hands too.
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    A bulk of the earlier breakouts from Mexico were caused by American tourists fleeing from America's oppressive lockdowns and "tyrant" mask policies.

    They spent a pretty penny to feel free to the point where the locals didn't do a damn thing about their ugly behavior while they slowly and surely got infected.

    Business as usual with blaming a group that can't defend themselves and one they feel naturally superior enough to exploit or abuse.
     
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