After watching Steve's maturation, I'm thoroughly convinced that Steve is a 2, similar to AI. As a result, I'm proposing a straight up trade for Cat/Cato for Andre Miller/Chris Mihm. I love Cat's game, however, AI did not flourish until Larry Hughes was shipped to GState and Eric Snow was inserted at the point. T To backup my point for Andre Miller, he the next best point guard behind the Jason Kidd. Andre plays great D and would free up Steve from the responsibility of guarding the scoring guard. Also, look at his assist to turnover ratio. No, Moochie is not the answer, more of the problem. Steve spends too much time trying to get everyone involved, when he should be shooting at least 25 times a game.
I'm pretty sure the Cavs won't give Andre up. I mean, don't get me wrong, he would be awesome to have, but he is basically their only weapon, and the fact that he can put up his points and assist totals with the crap surrounding him is amazing. As good as Cuttino is, comparing him to Miller is a joke. The trade would be a huge steal though! Anything to get rid of Cato, right?
What a great way to treat a player who signed the prime years of his career away at well under fair value. What a great way to entice Steve Francis to sign long-term-- trade away his best friend and co-star. Larry Hughes in Philadelphia never became even a fourth of the player Cuttino Mobley is. (In fact, he still isn't ) Larry Hughes never had the chemistry with Allen Iverson that Steve and Cuttino do. Larry Hughes wasn't the leader of the Sixers. Larry Hughes didn't take (and make) dozens of clutch shots. The situations aren't comparable. If you do that trade, we're in the lottery for the next 5-10 years-- the next two with Steve here and then several more after when he leaves.
Not to mention that Steve wants to play point guard. If Houston doesn't want him at the point, he will find another team that does.
Cat, Your buggin, players play to win championships. Steve is friends with Cassell, Van Exel, and a lot of other players in the L. We get to championships faster with Andre at point and Steve at the 2 than Steve at the 1 and Cuttino (jack'em up) Mobley at the 2. Yes, they play well together, but what about the other 3 players on the court who get NO love. I don't think Cleveland would laugh at the trade due to the fact that we would take Chris Mihm off their hands. Cat would look better in the East than West. This allows us to start Willis and go after Duncan in 2003. Check the lineup Andre - PG Steve - Sg TMorris - SF Griffin - PF Duncan - Center
So anyone want to suggest that the salaries don't match up? Rockets send $10mill and receive back $4mill..... I wouldn't trade Cat for a guy who can't shoot from long range.
1) If Francis agrees to playing the 2, then everyone who says he's a crybaby is justified. The whole argument was that bibby was in vancouver and he wanted to play the point. 2) Duncan will not join the Rockets. In fact, it's looking more and more like Duncan won't even leave San Antonio (Parker the PG, Daniels the SG). That's already a great team, add one free agent with Smith and Robinson's expiring contract, and you get a conteder in 2003. 3) There is no way the Rockets as an organization will trade mobley unless Mobley asks to be traded. 4) Francis won't be very happy with this trade. It's about winning championships, but when you have unhappy players (see Blazers[failure],Lakers[success]) you don't win any Championships.
Nuege has a good point. Right now Cat is our best shooter. Also, if you think Steve has problems defending 2 guards, it'll be worse with Miller, imo. I know he's similar in size as Steve, but he's not as athletic.
Why would Cleveland do this? It makes no sense to me and Francis could be a good pg. They shouldn't have taken AI off the point anyway. Yes he won the MVP, but if he and Stackhouse would have been given a yr plus Tim Thomas, they could have had a real big 3 but the team panicked. Steve can get his shots and so can the team if they just play at a quicker pace.
Am I the only one on this board who sees Steve struggle more when Moochie is the point and he is the 2. Steve thrives with the ball in his hand. He would not be as involved in the offense and can not create his own shot nearly as well as A.I. or even Cuttino. Does he need to shoot more...YES. Is he a 2-guard...not in my opinion.
LoL... your the one "buggin". Get rid of Mihm only to be saddled with Cato...boy that makes alot of sense
Your the same bunch of cats who said the Rockets would never trade Ralph Sampson and we ended up with Joe Barely Cares Carroll. All I'm saying is that Steve scored those points in the 4th Qtr with Moochie at the point. Yes he had the ball in hands as most 2 guards do when the game is on the line or they're trying to mount a comeback. Let's look at the SG list of ball in their hands, Jordan, Kobe, Allen, McGrady, the list goes on. For those of you that say Andre can play D, your fooling yourself, his D is better than Cuttino's. Your stuck on Cat's offense skills and not looking at the all around games. Imagine a 2 guard chasing Steve through screens and pick/rolls all night and Steve being fresh without having to worry about running the team and playing D on the best guards. Although I agree with the salary hiccup. Both Andre Miller and Steve are a better combination than Steve and Cat. Andre will get everyone involved not only Steve, but Rice, Cato, and KT. Look at Jason Kidd and the New Jersey Nets. Everyone is playing harder period. Cato loafs because he doesn't see the rock when he's running the floor.
comeon. make it francis or dont bother calling the cavs. and then to make it worse, cato for mihm? comeon.
And I would take Francis because he has untapped potential and actually wins games. By the way, Francis numbers are MUCH better around the board then Miller's Miller's career stats: 14.7 ppg 1.2 spg 4 rpg Francis career stats: 19.0 ppg 1.6 spg 6.2 rpg And while Miller is passing the ball much better this year his career assist average is 7 apg Francis is 6.5 apg Keep in mind Miller is a pure PG and has played that his entire career, Francis is putting up these numbers having only played point for 3 years! I'll take Francis thank you.
Andre Miller is great. In fact, the trade idea is super. Question is , would Cleveland pull the trigger that would leave them without a point guard, now that Brevin Knight is gone? I don't think it will go down. What about Mobley for Greg Anthony and Brian Skinner?
