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Curt Schilling Blogs Game 2 NBA Finals

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by gifford1967, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
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    Pretty interesting stuff. Especially about Kobe-



    Ok, so I get some ridiculously good tickets for Game 2 of the NBA Finals last night. This was the 2nd chance to see the Celts up close. A few observations.

    I had ZERO idea that the NBA game was that physical. Damn. The big boys are getting after it on every play.

    Kevin Garnett, and not that this needs to be stated, but I’ll say it anyway, is as focused and locked in as any athlete in any sport I’ve been around. From pre-game shoot around to last seconds on the clock, this kid is legit. The intensity and reputation are there, wow. His eyes are on the floor, or the ball, all game. What an incredible pleasure it is to watch and be a fan of. I am blown away in that he came out of high school, something that can be a huge disadvantage, and has ALWAYS maintained who he was purported to be.

    The first game I saw from these seats the Coach for Washington was basically taunting KG when he was at the line, saying a bunch of things, KG was ignoring him for the most part until he said something that must have been a bit too much, KG pauses, looks over and basically tells him to go piss up a rope.

    Last night KG goes to the line, Lamar Odom (who I became a fan of last night) is saying “Hey KG why don’t you help on the ball down here?” Pointing to the paint, and I am guessing he’s referencing the fact that KG wasn’t down in the paint mixing it up. He says it again, loudly, KG doesn’t even acknowledge him, and sinks both. Impressive, total focus.

    One thing I did learn was that in addition to not having one ounce of athletic ability, being white, and having no vertical, and only being able to dribble right handed, I couldn’t play in the NBA because about 43 times last night I heard things being said that would have made me swing at someone. These guys talk MAJOR trash on the floor, and the great part is that most of the times I’ve seen it the guy on the receiving end usually doesn’t respond much, if at all, and just plays the game, schooling the guy who feels like he needs to talk to make his game better.

    Paul Pierce is friggin good. What a game. Who on the Lakers can defend him?

    I always wondered about the b****ing and moaning of NBA coaches and players with regards to officiating and last night I was literally on the floor to see and hear it first hand. Things I heard and saw.

    1) KGs first quarter Technical. I heard EVERY word of his exchange with the ref. It’s nice to know that they share the same problems some players do with MLB umpires. He was giving a technical because he said the F word, period. He did NOT call the ref a name, he was b****ing about a non-call and said “C’mon, what the F am I supposed to do” and got the T. Now I watch both Pierce, and I think Allen, talking to this ref and he shoots back to Paul this little tidbit. “I can’t let him talk to me that way.”

    What? Dude, your an NBA official, not the stinking Pope. Not one person in the arena paid 1 cent of their ticket to see you, ref the game and shut your pie hole. These guys are playing for a world championship, they are as amped up as you expect the best players in the world to be, they are grown men, there’s going to be some PG-13 language, and you are giving a T to a guy for dropping an F bomb? Stupid.

    2) Every SINGLE play up and down the floor has MULTIPLE fouls being committed by multiple players. These guys are in close, every play. They are beating the crap out of each other, and the refs see it. That makes me think that the game is called and paced exactly how the refs want it to be. I wondered aloud, a few times, how in the hell calls weren’t being made against the Celts on a ton of plays in the paint where there was some serious pugilism being committed. There were a ton of ‘non-calls’ in my incredibly amateur opinion.

    3) Phil Jackson knew it. Early in the game, Farmar comes to the bench during Celts free throws and asks about the next series, Jackson says “One thing I do know is we’ve got to stop !@#$&@#%$#&*()@ fouling these guys” Farmar asks what he says and he repeats the line.

    4) I don’t know much about the NBA beyond some of the star players and the famous teams. I heard that the Lakers got Gasol in a horrible steal of a deal and that the league should have investigated the trade for some sort of punishable crime I saw a 7 footer last night who grabbed like 4 rebounds and spent the entire game whining about getting fouled.

    5) Kobe. This one stunned me a little bit. Who doesn’t know Kobe Bryant right? I only know what I have heard, starting awhile back with the entire Shaq debacle. I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other on or about him other than to know that people feel he might be one of the 4-5 greatest players to ever lace it up. What I do know is what I got to see up close and hear, was unexpected. From the first tip until about 4 minutes left in the game I saw and heard this guy b**** at his teammates. Every TO he came to the bench pissed, and a few of them he went to other guys and yelled about something they weren’t doing, or something they did wrong. No dialog about “hey let’s go, let’s get after it” or whatever. He spent the better part of 3.5 quarters pissed off and ranting at the non-execution or lack of, of his team. Then when they made what almost was a historic run in the 4th, during a TO, he got down on the floor and basically said ‘Let’s f’ing go, right now, right here” or something to that affect. I am not making this observation in a good or bad way, I have no idea how the guys in the NBA play or do things like this, but I thought it was a fascinating bit of insight for me to watch someone in another sport who is in the position of a team leader and how he interacted with his team and teammates. Watching the other 11 guys, every time out it was high fives and “Hey nice work, let’s get after it” or something to that affect. He walked off the floor, obligatory skin contact on the high five, and sat on the bench stone faced or pissed off, the whole game. Just weird to see another sport and how it all works. I would assume that’s his style and how he plays and what works for him because when I saw the leader board for scoring in the post season his name sat up top at 31+ a game, can’t argue with that. But as a fan I was watching the whole thing, Kobe, his teammates and then the after effects of conversations. He’d yell at someone, make a point, or send a message, turn and walk away, and more than once the person on the other end would roll eyes or give a ‘whatever dude’ look.

    Let me reiterate that this is from a complete basketball newbie, so for all I know this could be exactly how these guys play this game and interact with each other.

    The contrast though, for me anyway, was watching KG and Allen, Pierce, as the game went on. I was literally ON the Laker bench so I could only watch the celts on the floor, and it was just different. it was all about who has whom, who goes where, what’s up next. That could have been a direct result of the officiating and flow of the game though, more than anything.

    It was just amazing to watch a game where the Lakers came out, completely set the tempo in the first few minutes and TOTALLY dominated the final four minutes, and in between the Celtics completely dominated them.

    Anyway, what a rush and a total enjoyment to be a part of. Celtic fans were damn impressive. Oh and one more thing. I think it’s fantastic that there seems to be this mutual support thing going on here in NE. You fans are being treated to your third World Championship appearance since last October and that’s awesome. But at each one there seems to be a crossover, Celts and Sox at the Super Bowl, Pats, Bruins and Celts at the World Series, and last night Sox and Pats all over the place. Cool stuff.

    http://38pitches.com/2008/06/09/manny-jd-papi-lester-and-the-nba-finals/#more-178
     
  2. HAYJON02

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    That's funny. Curt the NBA novice noticed a Spanish 7 footer whine the entire game.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I would make fun of how Curt Schilling likes to hear himself talk, but I have over 18K posts
     
  4. kaleidosky

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    that was a pretty good read surprisingly. Only thing is, Kobe looked like that in game 2 for the first time in a LONG time. The refs were killin the Lakers (unbelievably biased...even Bill Simmons agrees, and you'd never hear that out of his mouth against his beloved Celts).. so the frustration makes sense.

    At the same time, this is the first time Kobe has really been losing in the last 6 weeks or whatever. So maybe he's just a whiner still when he's losing.
     
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    Interesting read... Isn't he the one that knows nothing of "politics"?
     
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    Kobe's a dick, but a great player?

    What a shocker.
     
  8. Gerrard

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    Curt Schilling is gay for blogging all that but everyone should already know who Kobe really is and who he isn't.
     
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    All these Kobe threads proclaiming this is the new Kobe. I've said it before, how many times can you guys be fooled? It's like a chick flick where the woman tells her girlfriends that her ex-boyfriend won't cheat on her anymore and gets back together with him...only to get burned again.

    Winning helps everyone get along and look good. How you handle losing shows who you really are. I said it in another post...Kobe's speech about his 'band of brothers' in the locker room would go out the window the second things turned sour.
     
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    Theres Kobe, the greatest player ever. The almighty leader getting it done. :rolleyes:
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Cool blog, I love Schilling and his forthrightness.

    DD
     
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    People who use "gay" as an insult = douche bag.
     
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    People who use "douche bag" as an insult = gay. :p
     
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    Put yourself in his shoes. There's only so much you can say to a bunch of tools that refuse to show up and play while the celts bench is doing big things on the court and showing up. I have ZERO problem with what Kobe did because his teammates decided not to show up. I would have been equally disgusted at them. Because he wasn't all Rah Rah, let's go team then he's a bad guy? Okay, whatever. This is the NBA finals, they don't need Kobe to coddle them and beg them to play smart basketball. I would have to believe the object of most of his frustration that night was "Borat" Radmanovic. If anyone deserves a tirade or barrage of abuse it's Radmanovic, the guy has Zero basketball IQ.

    feel free to disagree.
     
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    Gaybag???
     
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    I will disagree. You don't have to b**** at your teammates the entire game. What happened to motivation? Encouragement? A true leader keeps everyone together. The fact that some of his guys gave him that "whatever look" says it all. His teammates weren't horrible. As a team, they shot 49%. His teammates "showed up" more in Game 2 than they did in Game 3.

    You damn know if T-Mac was b****ing at his teammates the entire game, there would be a 10 page thread flaming T-Mac saying how horrible he is. Thats another thing about Kobe. He can do stuff like get 15 techs and b**** at as teammates all game long and people will just say hes just being passionate or hes just showing his love for the game. Of course, when somebody else does the same thing, they're crazy and a team cancer.
     
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    I'm not one of those that has a problem with T-Mac. I got no problem at all he b*tched at his teammates during a game. If the teammates deserve it then I got no prob. with it. Like I said I'm sure Radmanovic got the brunt of kobe's anger and I think he deserved/deserves it.
     
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    Ugh, can I get through one damn thread without someone crying foul over something that isn't PC?
     
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    Yeah. If you go to another BBS. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
     
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    people who use "gay" as an insult = cool
     

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