What/Who are our current trade assets? We don't have much, but who could we trade to actually get something in return? By that I mean who is expendable that can actually get something. Luther Head Kirk Snyder Bob Sura's contract VSpan? Novak? I would really like to see a trade with Luther Head and possibly getting someone like Ike Diogu. Head's contract is $1.12 million and Diogu is $2.29 million, so we'd have to add some. Hmm...Howard+Head=$8 million...Diogu+Foster=$8 million over the same amount of time
I don't think we have any assets, at least any can get us a good player out of Mac/Yao/Bat... UGH. Hope we move up the draft.
Believe it or not, I think Juwan may be an asset too... He played well, and his contract will expire soon.
yes. he played his way into being an asset last season. he stepped up in yao's absense both on the court and in the locker room. his contract isn't that long anymore either. he's a pf who can rebound, hustle, and hit a mid-range J. he will add vet leadership too. he and luther would make a nice package for another team.
Eveyone but Yao is a trade asset of some magnitude by my account. Yao is the only player I can't fathum getting more in return from in some possible deal--granted to trade Battier I would want it part of a deal to acquire a near all-star player (e.g. Lewis) and to trade Tmac I would want a monster player (e.g., KG). So-- -Yao (huge asset, just about untouchable) -Tmac (huge asset, but not quite untouchable) - - (big gap) - -Battier (solid asset, but could be used to acquire a superior player) - -(big gap) - -Head (modest asset--good bench guard at good contract) -Hayes (but I can't imagine him being worth more to another team than to the Rockets and he is an RFA, doubtfull he is part of a sign and trade) - minimal to modest assets -Wells (if he takes the option) -Howard (decent vet bench 4/5, might be salary relief if matched with a higher priced/longer term contract player in return) -Alston (excellent but overpriced back-up--could find a taker) - minimal assets (worth maybe a 2nd rounder/primary trade filler) -Novak -Snyder -VS -JL3
^ agreed when you make playoff history with only 4 players scoring in a game... you basically have no assets....
I take the opposite view-- we have at least four assets to trade- think + Where there is a will there is away.......
I think you are rating Battier too highly. The only way we could get a superior player for him is if a malcontent like Artest is dumped by the Kings and that seems doubtful to me. I don't think there is anyway he could be packaged with any of our guys for Lewis if we were to exclude either T-Mac or Yao. I feel that T-Mac plus our role players won't be able to get KG either.
It looks like we do not have much- but rememeber the trade to get Steve Francis- the main asset we lost I wanted to keep was Othella Harrington-because Steve demanded a trade. If the timing is right - sometimes something can happen-doubtful, but possible... I just used the Vancouver trade for an example- amazing in execution
Assets: Head Sura Contract 1st Round Pick 2007 Draft ... maybe Howard for a longer term deal with an overpriced, but better player. I wouldn't trade Battier, T-Mac, or Yao. That's the core of our squad, and we just need to surround them with better players. If Bonzi comes back, those 4 players are what you build around. We have the MLE. With the MLE and those 3 (quasi-4) assests, I hope we address the point guard, as well as the power forward this offseason. I would also like some better outside shooting. Hopefully we can develop Novak, and pick up a solid 3-pt specialist. It's alot to accomplish this offseason, but we better try.
I was just spelling at the situations in which I would trade Battier or Tmac. I agree both are really unlikely. But firesales have happened because players want out and full value is not available in return, as another poster suggested. If Seattle and Lewis for instance have a complete falling out, and Seattle needs something, Battier + Head + picks +maybe Sura/Wells (filler) could be in the ballpark. Battier fetched the 7 pick/highly regarded prospect (Gay) and a quality bench 4/5 (Swift)--he has some value. Head and our future 1st have more modest value, but still some value. I forgot to mention Sura, yes his contract could be a filler/slight value. The late 1sts (this year or future years) we could give away have fairly modest value--probably about even with Head.
What would you think of resigning Bonzi ( no OPT OUT); and trading Tmac and Alston for Bibby and Artest. Then use our MLE, Sura, and 26th pick to resolve the PF/C situation. Artest is on record that he would play for Adelman for FREE, although I doubt it. Bibby and Bonzi both like him. That would give us Bibby, Artest, Battier, PF (TBD) and Yao starting with Bonzi, Hayes, Head, and Juwan comin off the bench. Maybe a C. Mihm as b/u PF/C if Deke doesn't return. ps. The salaries work according to RealGM but I think Bibby has a trade kicker to resolve.
I wouldn't have said that about Howard (or Head, for that matter) before this past season, but someone might bite on that who wants to unload a longer contract to stay under the cap. (as many have pointed out when talking about trades) Head just finished his second year and could be appealing in the right situation. Howard was just solid for us, at least until the playoffs. Someone could bite on that, plus a pick(s) either way, depending on who we're trying to get.
We still have our 2008 1st Round Pick, right? That's another asset. If a player who could make an impact for us slips in the draft, I think that we may be able to move our #26 + Head + 2008 1st Round Pick to move up into the mid to late teens. Acie Law is the guy I'd like to go after if he slips, but I think that there are a few others that could help too.
All of the Rockets Roster are assets- A Clever Manager will use these assets to improve the team. No emotions , all business !! This is a big test of Morey and he may be too conservative to pull off the a big trade or move up in the draft so like all of you I sit back and watch for the cards to fall where they may. Possibly with Les pushing Morey to get things done he can revamp the team with a good Playmaker Point Guard and a strong,tall & athletic Power Forward who can rebound, block and is great at put backs. He needs to be able to work in tandem with Yao.
Sorry, don't like it. Bibby is 29 and really tailing off in assists, steals, and last year, shooting %. Makes me really considered his best days are behind him, and he doesn't have Tmac's size to prolong his effectiveness and ability to transition to another position. Artest is talented but a huge risk. I might or might not do Battier strait up for him. Only if Adelman gave a BIG endorsement that Artest would blend in chemistry wise and he think the risk of some other conduct suspension is low. Unless we get a firesale for a better player or at least younger player(s) with great upside--KG, Kobe, possibly Amare, possibly Marion + Barbosa--I wouldn't trade Tmac.
