Could it be possible for Indiana sign Croshere for a pretty big deal and trade him and the Rockets not have to part with a big contract to match it because of the trade exception? Like maybe Croshere signs for 5.5 million and we trade Kenny Thomas who is around 1 million. Or maybe Walt at 5 million for Croshere at around 9 mill. I really don't know how much Croshere is asking for so I think either of these trades would work depending on what Croshere wants. [This message has been edited by SooneRockStro (edited July 13, 2000).]
Yes, that's how it works. And Indiana would then have 9 million in trade exceptions because they already have their own. They could land the frontcourt player they need with that huge exception. ------------------
I would find it rather incredible that Indiana would give Austin away for Kenny or Walt. ------------------
Indiana has no leverage in a sign-and-trade. They basically have to take what they can get. ------------------
Thing is, has Austin ever stated that he didn't want to play for the Pacers. I kinda figured the whole purpose for a sign and trade was that both tea and player had decided that it was best for both of them for the player to be elsewhere (aka Scottie and the Bulls). Am I mistaken (on both accounts)? ------------------
The problem with Croshere is that we need the Pacers to help us out no matter what. All we have to spend is the $2.25exception, but the PAcers could match that or any other offer up to 4.1 million. Anything above that they would have to start renouncing guys like Rose, Smits, Miller, Jackson, which they aren't going to do. Even to sign and trade they would have to clear cap space to sign him. It looks to me as though the Pacers are going to get away with signing him after the Rockets or someone else offers him the exception because I don't think the Celtics have over 4.1 million to offer either, and the teams with big FA dollars (Magic, Bulls and now, apparently Detroit and Toronto) haven't shown any interest. j ------------------
Actually, this scenario would work and is plausible: Rockets send Bryce Drew ($1 million) plus the $4.5 million exemption and a future first round pick. Pacers sign Croshere starting at $6 million and ship him to Houston. Essentially, it is up to the Rockets and his agent to determine what a fair contract is and then work out the trade. For that matter, the Rockets could ship just the exemption and the 1st rounder for Croshere signed at $5 million per year. It doesn't HAVE to be a player depending on salary amounts. ------------------ "No one gets out ALIVE!" SaveOurRockets.com
SilentJ, I believe that Croshere is an unrestricted FA and can sign for as much as he wants. The Pacers have his Bird rights. ------------------ "Stranger things have happened, but none stranger than this" - Commentator after a parachutist landed in the ring of a Holyfield fight [This message has been edited by Rocketsauce (edited July 13, 2000).]
If the Rockets send Drew, the 4.5 mil exemption, and a future pick to Indiana in a sign and trade for Croshere. Then could/would the a Pacers use this cap space to sign a big guy, like Brian Grant? ------------------ - Beck Dream...bring back the goggles
I think any deal for Croshere is gonna have to involve Walt. The Rockets can not afford to have those large salaries on their books come next summer. Croshere at 9 million?? You've got to be kidding me. I must be missing something. ------------------ "I've been licking this carpet for hours and I still don't feel like a lesbian!"
Would this deal be possible? Mobley for Croshere Reasons why Pacers might make this deal: Reggie Miller is probably a year or 2 away from retirement so the Pacers will be looking for a replacement for him. Reasons why Cuttino might agree to sign and trade: Cuttino will probably never be a starter in Houston playing behind Shandon and Steve. This way he waits a season or 2 and he will the be starting shooting guard, or he could possibly start at the point guard position next season and the pacers can have a Mobley, Miller, Rose combination similar to Harper, Jordan, Pippen. Plus he will be playing for a championship contender. Croshere gets a staring position in Houston and Houston gets help in the forward positions. Both teams have trade exceptions so that might make the deal easier to make. ------------------ You ain't gotta like me, you just mad cause I tell it how it is, and you tell it how it might be.
RocketsPimp: Who said 9 million? It is more like $4 to $5 million. ------------------ "No one gets out ALIVE!" SaveOurRockets.com
Jeff: I said 9 and 5 mill in the first post because I didn't really know how much he was worth, but since then I read on NBATalk that he would go for around 5-6 mill. Anyway, there is no way that Cuttino agrees to any sign and trade since he could get much more from a number of other teams. The trade I think could happen is Drew/Thomas/exception for Croshere. That would be a combined 6.5 mill from the Rockets and Croshere signs for exactly that amount. He gets more than he thought he would get and Indiana gets two young players who could end up being good for a long time if they develop, especially Drew developing because is already pretty good. They also get 4.5 mill to add to their other 4.5 mill that they could use in another sign-and-trade. ------------------
I dont think the Pacers would even really want Bryce that much because they already have Best. The only way Bryce could be involved in a deal, would be if Jackson already decided to leave the team like he is rumored to. I see Croshere staying with the Pacers though, unfortunately, because he already told them that he would in the Star News awhile back.
Any chance the rockets could send Walt, Rogers, Drew, and a couple of conditional 1st rd picks for Croshere so the rockets get their trade exception? ------------------ "You've got 6 fouls, use them well" -Derrick Coleman
The Pacers don't want Walt & Rogers. At least not for the Trade Exception pick up a big Salery with Walt & lose the exception you could have had to land a decenent PG? Why would they do that. If a deal can be worked out the Rockets will be looking to dump Drew & maybe a KT or Rogers if they have to in order to make it work but all in all they will be looking to deal Drew sooner than later no matter what happens. Would Indiana have any use for Drew? I don't follow East Coast basketball teams close enough to know. ------------------ Trade Shandon & Francis now. Join the save our Mobley movement. Less fire, less heart, less competition for a starting job More money - more touches & it's all good now.
5-6 million! Man what has the world come to? I remember when the general public had a fit about Dr. J making a million. Now we are ready to pay 5-6 million for 10 pts., 6 rbs per game. Man I must be getting old. ------------------
